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Valued Member
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Hi all, I've posted a number of chain cents here for opinions, still have not snagged one .. here's another, I like the lighter color and the general look of it. It is a Details coin for environmental, but also looks like it has been tooled, 'devices engraved' or something, such as the neckline and the letters in LIBERTY. Whattya think, is this a double-details coin, and does PCGS just note the most obvious problem and omit any others?   Actual coin - https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...0368-52109.s |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think LIBERTY was messed with, but the detail remaining on the entire coin seems to match the detail of the letters. The obverse looks weak but the reverse is sharp.
Regardless, this coin appears to be damaged in that area and should be purchased as such, regardless of what is omitted from the label.
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and does PCGS just note the most obvious problem and omit any others? FYI. The coin in the link, is in a NGC holder |
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 United States
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FYI. The coin in the link, is in a NGC holder Whups so it is, sorry. I have seen coins I think in ANACS holders with a laundry list of problems noted, but PCGS/NGC I believe never puts more than one. Here, it sure looks to me like someone tried to sharpen up that neckline and those letters, as well as the enviro damage noted. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems like someone was trying to scrape off the corrosion around the letters. A quick search shows some NGC holders with more than one Details designation, for example "corrosion, burnished" and "corrosion, graffiti." I don't know how they decide or perhaps their standards about it changed over the years.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sure looks clumsily messed up.
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United States
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it sure looks to me like someone tried to sharpen up that neckline and those letters 100% agree. Such a shame to try to "improve" a coin like this. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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United States
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how about a full coin image to go alone with this partial?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7613 Posts |
Great coin if you just wanted to display the reverse!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Just a freak to me, zero appeal.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great appeal to me. It's a fact of life that many that many coins got and stil get damaged. The strong chain on this piece is a BIG plus.  Some conservation in the form of retoning might well help diminish the aggressive cleaning and help shadow the obverse graving about the letters. I know that this suggestion might well annoy some diehard, condition-conscious collectors. That said, the obverse is damaged, and, IMHO, some judicious retoning won't worsen the condition any further. I'm guessing this coin will fetch $3k.  |
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United States
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OK, why is this called a 'Chain Coin'?
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Pillar of the Community
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OK, why is this called a 'Chain Coin'? The reverse of this so-called "chain cent" illustrates a chain pictorial, surrounding the denomination. What with the conjoined links on the chain, this design was intended to illustrate strength and unity among the individual colonies that bonded to form the states in the union. Many thought this design to be inappropriate, as the chain was ironically a symbol of slavery. Thus, the wreath design followed. |
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OK, why is this called a 'Chain Coin'? Usually called a 'chain cent'. Example of the reverse of a chain cent:  Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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United States
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how about a full coin image to go alone with this partial? The link to the full coin is in the OP, it's a Heritage auction coming up. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like tooling marks. I'd pass on that one.
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Posted 01/26/2024 2:05 pm
