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What Would The Chances Of This 1804 Draped Bust Coin Being Real?

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Was wondering what you guys thought the chances of these coins being legit were?
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Zero.
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By the way, what year is that French Indochina "piastre" to the left?
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Zero is a good answer; less than zero OK as well...
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Do you think any of these are real?
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...that coin is 1908
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It's hard to say from these photos, but I would assume they are all fake. The 8 reales have the wrong font in the date - search for these coins on ali express and you'll see what I mean.
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Not my coins, I was going to grab them but the 1804 Draped bust scared me into checking reality.
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Too new to the sport, didn't think fake coins were legal.
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It is not legal to sell these with the intent of defrauding the buyer.
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Avoid uncertified valuable coins, especially if you're a newbie.
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Thanks everyone for your input, really appreciate having a place to go for this type of information. People are trying to sell these coins, when I looked it up and seen 7m price I knew something was astray..coins are tricky..thx
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Too new to the sport, didn't think fake coins were legal.

You are in Canada, which has stricter anti-counterfeit laws than most other countries. Selling fake coins in Canada is illegal, even if both sides of the deal are aware the coins are fake, and it does not matter if the fake coins are Canadian or not. Even being in possession of them "without lawful justification or excuse" is illegal, and I'm not entirely sure how you would prove you're a legitimate coin collector with a legitimate reason to own a collection of fake coins in a court of law, should that need arise.

These coins appear to be standard "Chinese fakes" seen all too often in recent decades, coming out of mainland China (where making fake foreign coins is perfectly legal). If you bought them in Canada, whoever imported them into Canada broke the law twice - once by importing them, then again by selling them to you. If you are buying them online from a source outside of Canada, then you would be the one doing the illegal importing.
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Something can be illegal, but if the law is not enforced, you will find people breaking the law with impunity.
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That image of the draped bust is far too tiny - you need to learn to get larger images that are cropped properly.
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