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1736 Or 736 Ad? | Imitation Spanish-American Gold

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 Posted 04/23/2009  02:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PrattRoadCollectables to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
If anyone knows the origin, or translations from this coin, it would be greatly appreciated. At first I thought the date was 1736..... now I was wondering if it is 736?
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 Posted 04/23/2009  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollhunter1994 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know anything about the coin, but it looks pretty old to me! If the number is supposed to be the date, then I would say it's from 736. And welcome to coin community!
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 Posted 04/23/2009  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Theres a few guys can date that here , I had one like it only mine is "gold" and a fake.
Its a spanish piece , pirate money , thats why there are so many fakes.Hopefully yours is the exception.
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 Posted 04/23/2009  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a 1736 coin...

It's similar to this one (in story)

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...Lot_No=30015

But yours is silver and 8 reals. I hope it's real!
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 Posted 04/23/2009  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It 'looks' British from the 12-1300's. French, mebbe?
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 Posted 04/23/2009  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to have the same design and mintmaster's marks as a gold 8 escudos from Spanish Peru (KM# 38.2). However, unless the colour of your image is way off, this one isn't gold. So it's an imitation, probably a tourist souvenir from a "pirate-themed" place.

While the date on these coins does in fact appear to read "736", the issuer assumed that everyone would know it was the Second Millennium - with only three spaces to write the date, the "1" was omitted. Many European coins from the 1600's and 1700's only put the last two or threenumerals of the date.

The date is actually on this coin twice: "736" across the pillars, and "ANNO 1736" around from 9 o'clock to 12 o'clock on the same side. This redundancy was because these coins were often so crudely struck that only a few details might appear on any one particular coin; putting the date in two different places doubled the chance that a legible date would actually be visible on the finished coin.

Furthermore, it can't be 736 AD, because the concept of putting AD dates on coins hadn't actually been invented way back then. The earliest coin with an AD date is from Denmark, dated 1234 AD - and the numbers on this coin are in Roman numerals. The earliest use of "western-style" numbers to date a coin is from Switzerland, in 1424. This old thread discusses such early dated coins.
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Sap beat me to it. I was going to chime in with the, "There were no dates on coins in 736"
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SAP,

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This redundancy was because these coins were often so crudely struck that only a few details might appear on any one particular coin; putting the date in two different places doubled the chance that a legible date would actually be visible on the finished coin.


very interesting
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