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Strange 1980 JFK Half Dollar

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Hi
I got a 1980 P JFK Half Dollar today. It appears to be different. Does anyone know of any strange 1980 JFK Half Dollars out there. I'm not sure if it is "fake" or something else. I have handled/seen alot of JFK's and something about this one doesn't seem right. (it reminds me alot of the War Nickels). I don't have scale to weigh coin. Any thoughts?

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Looks normal. Do you have another coin that you can do the balancing act with?
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Yes, I did balance test. It weighs less then "normal JFk" but more then 1967 Silver. I also did tissue test with tissue test, but silly me I cant tell difference between silver and not silver.
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That is why you put a known silver coin on one side and the one you want to check on the other side.
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Looks like a matte type of finish.
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It look Highly polished like someone used a Dremel tool on it?
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No pro, but it looks like it's been dipped to me, maybe several times.
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Never heard of a "facial tissue" test.. have a few questions:
--Any particular brand or type? (1 ply, "with lotion!", etc)
--From your pictures, coop, the silver just shows as an outline. Is that what to look for and is there any other distinction?
-----Why would it just show an outline on a silver coin?!
--Does the tissue just sit on it or does it have to be wrapped tightly around the coin?
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I've seen many Kennedys that look like this. in fact I found a 1972 D just like it yesterday. Under a high powered lens, the coin is covered with microscopic scratches that were also effected by years of circulation.

I've seen coins end up like this as a result of polishing. I especially remember some that were done with automotive polishing compound.

I suspect that is what this is. It definitely started out as a normal half dollar though.

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xshift:

Never heard of a "facial tissue" test.. have a few questions:
Facial tissue. We used to say back in the stone age, kleenex. But working in a grocery store makes me call it by the professional term. LOL Even toilet tissue would work. Papper towels don't.
--Any particular brand or type? (1 ply, "with lotion!", etc)
Most tissues are double. So I remove one layer so its 1/2 the thickness of a normal facial tissue. Don't use the ones with lotion as they may affect the future of your coins.
--From your pictures, coop, the silver just shows as an outline. Is that what to look for and is there any other distinction?
The difference I can best describe it is that the coin appears white (silver) compared to a non silver coin.
-----Why would it just show an outline on a silver coin?!
Because of the metal in the coin. I know someone years ago taught me how to do it and it always works so I continue to use it.
--Does the tissue just sit on it or does it have to be wrapped tightly around the coin?
Just lay-ed on the coin. You should see through it just fine. If not the tissue is too thick.
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Coop, I thank-you for that "tip" as I did not know of this. I would also ask you will this work on most other coins, just to see the difference?. I would think so!!
Again great pictures, thanks, Mike....
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Only silver coins will appear white. The 40% silver I haven't tested yet, but think they will show white at the core is copper and the outer part of the planchet is silver. If you look at the edges of them you usually don't see the copper showing.
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Thanks for the explanation, coop! Got any other tricks up your sleeve?
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Only silver coins will appear white. The 40% silver I haven't tested yet,

Coop, that's a 40% silver vs clad that you show in your picture. Which shows that even at 40% silver the difference is striking in appearance.
(Of course the outer layer are 80% silver/20% copper)

The reason the trick works is because sile is the most reflective of all metals. Silver reflect 95% of all the light that hits it. The coppernickel alloy only reflects 50 to 60% of the light that hits it.
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