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This Jefferson nickel is about 5% off-center on the obverse and closer to 10% on the reverse. This is due to the hammer die shifting because of the enormous shear forces set up between the hammer die, planchet, and collar at the time of the strike. Here's the definition found on error-ref https://www.error-ref.com/?s=stiff+collarClick on the picture for a larger image  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Wow. Did you purchase this one yokozuna or was this found in circulation?
If you don't mind me asking.
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cool find! never heard of a 'stiff collar' strike before..
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Should be pretty well cupped in the area of 3 o'clock on both photographs. Does it show up well when looking at it edge-on?
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Very nice!  Errers and Varietys.
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Should be pretty well cupped in the area of 3 o'clock on both photographs. Does it show up well when looking at it edge-on? Here are a couple of different angles on the 'cupped' area of the coin. It's easy to see and feel this with the coin in-hand, but not as easy to photograph, but I did the best I could. I'm really glad you asked this Spence, because I also discovered something really odd while shooting edge images. The coin has something that looks like reeds on part of the edge. I haven't a clue as to what could have caused this.  Please let me know what YOU think could have caused this.  Images with light source from opposite angles show the 'cupped' area.  Anyone have an idea of what could have caused the reed-like edge?  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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06/22/2024 10:26 pm
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@Centinal No problem! Almost all of my major error coins came from a coin shop in Dallas, TX. They had a source for error coins that may not have been entirely 'above board.' They bought hundreds of coins from a seller that may have worked for a Money Management company that wrapped coins for distribution to banks or had some other direct tie to mint issued unsearched new coins. The error coins should have been returned to the mint when found to be cancelled and recycled, but these coins were 'removed' the system by this individual. The owner of the shop would put many of these errors aside for me so that I got the first chance at buying them.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Neat error coin Yokozuna.
What part of the design is the "reeded" part closest to? (I'm guessing only part of it is reeded.)
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@Petespockets55 These 'reed' type marks are visible on the edge starting at K-10 to K-1, then there's a small smooth area with reed type marks starting again at K-2 to K-5. These marks are all near the reverse side of the coin. At K-6 the marks start again, but near the obverse side this time. They then continue from K-6 to K-9 while moving towards the center of the edge with another smooth area at K-9 to K-10.
I've never seen an edge with marks like this. Strange, but interesting!
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Thanks for the added info. Are the rim locations obverse or reverse or based on which side is showing the "reeds" the strongest. The profile of the edge appears to show it being angled, with the "reeded" part protruding out further than the un-reeded part. Maybe this protrusion was the result of the tilted die concentrating more force on opposing faces at opposite ends. (  Physics sure can be daunting sometimes.) I'm wondering if a quarter collar die might have been used and the tilted die forced the metal (lightly) against the collar on opposite faces? What's the diameter (reed to reed and smooth to smooth)? Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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a very cool error coin Yoko, thanks for posting up the edge images.
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Yoko,
Did you ever check the diameter on this coin?
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Nice, and that is a curious edge feature.
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Posted 06/22/2024 2:43 pm
Uncirculated American Silver Eagles 
