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What Is This Obsession With Needing To See Images?

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 Posted 07/21/2024  1:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add recollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I described a simple situation. A coin with a 90%rotated die .
Why do people need to see it? Can they not picture a coin with a rotated die? Is the information not specific enough? Stop asking for images if it is not necessary. I don't need to see an image of a blue sky to know what one looks like.
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 Posted 07/21/2024  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obsession... Imagine physically walking up to someone and saying that you have an interesting coin and you'd like their input/opinion. If you have the coin on you--you likely would--you'd show it to them. The very first thing that person would do is ask your permission to look at it--even though you described it. Let's say you hand it to them. The next thing they'd do is look at it--one side , then the other. After doing that, they'd be much better able to address your observations. Try describing an interesting coin to a dealer at a coin show--they will ask to see it. Our hobby is a very visual one--we love to see coins.
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 Posted 07/21/2024  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A rotated die, is atypical aka rare, not often seen. You don't understand why people would want to see it?

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When discussing numismatic errors like a 90-degree rotated die on a coin, collectors and experts typically do not need an image to understand what such an error looks like. The description alone suffices to understand the nature of the error.

Here are a few reasons why images might be requested or discussed in some contexts:

Verification and Authentication: In some cases, particularly when dealing with rare or valuable coins, collectors or experts might request images to verify the authenticity of the coin and to ensure that the error described matches what is observed.

Condition and Details: Images can also help in assessing the condition of the coin, which is crucial for determining its market value. Specific details such as wear, toning, or additional characteristics related to the error can be better understood with visual evidence.

Educational Purposes: For educational purposes, images can illustrate different types of errors and help enthusiasts and beginners alike understand the nuances of numismatic varieties.
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We like to see the coin so we can give a honest opinion about it.
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Pics are essential - they convey the wear, damage if any, and the overall eye appeal of a coin, all of which are essential to offering a valuation.
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In the case of a possible rotated die,two things come to mind.
Coin flip and medal flip.
Magician coin.
Photos would be most helpful.Help us help you.
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 Posted 07/21/2024  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need for pictures is not obsession.
Sort of the same as science without the proof.
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Imagine a dating service w/o pictures...
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Imagine a dating service w/o pictures...

Well some of the dating sight pictures have "questionable surfaces" so might as well not even have a picture in the first place......
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Pictures clarify if you are right or wrong about your explanation of your coin. And definitely help when someone is asking a question about said coin. As long as you like your topics locked then no one is forcing you to post pictures.
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It seems to me that coin has been mis-identified to start with. If it is an 1845 Crown, it certainly does not belong in the forum where you originally posted it. More likely to be a Great Britain coin. A couple pics would certainly remove any doubt.
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"questionable surfaces"

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1845 Victorian crowns were minted in coin alignment, which would look to be a 90 degree rotation to collectors used to coins being in medal alignment.

Or are you saying this coin is in medal alignment when it should be in coin alignment?

There are no Australian Victorian crowns

Without pictures we are all confused as to what you are talking about.
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@rec, I don't remember off the top of my mind whether it was me or not that locked your thread, but I take this step several times a week so that it may very well have been me. It seems like I also end up moving threads to their optimal subforum quite a bit and, in fact, am doing that to your thread. I know that your original post was specific to ANZ coins, but since this is a pretty widespread question, I think that having it here in the CCF support/suggestions/feedback subforum will let others benefit from this discussion.

Thx for your participation here and hopefully you now have a better understanding of the need for pics with just about every thread.
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1845 Victorian crowns were minted in coin alignment, which would look to be a 90 degree rotation to collectors used to coins being in medal alignment.

Not to be picky, but I think that coin vs. medal would be 180 degrees out of alignment?
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