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 Posted 05/17/2009  2:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going through a roll of 1959 Jefferson's today and came across these two that look a little odd to me. The edge lettering seems to be wider than what I normally see. Maybe it's just me eyes, but is this normal or caused by worn dies or double dies? I've also post an image of what I see as normal size letters. All the coins are in just about the same condition.

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1954 1955 1958 and 1959 Philadelphia minted nickels are often found in a gunmetal or struck on very dark planchets. Sometimes called "Black beauties". These dates seem to be the most common with this phenomena.
Other years can also be found between 1954 and 1967 but all seem to be the dark alloy mixture and it seems that all are from the Philadelphia mint, at least that is my experience.
I think they are neat, and I have a fair number of good examples.
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Thanks for the info.
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Good answer Wheezydog, good answer. Wrong question, but good answer.

The wide blurred lettering on your coins is being caused by worn dies.
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Interesting. I'll have to check my pre-60 stash of nickels. Do these have any additional value?
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Good answer Wheezydog, good answer. Wrong question, but good answer.

The wide blurred lettering on your coins is being caused by worn dies.




Now that was funny!


I recall reading somewhere about the blurred edges and weak lettering. Wish I knew where it was I read it but I think it has something to do with heat from over use of the dies.
I will go look around again and see if I can find it again. Might have been a book, maybe it was on the net?
Can't afford to look much further tonight, but I think it is called Die Deterioration sometimes causing a doubling effect but this is not an error.

LATE EDIT:
Thursday 5/21 AM I found the information on this phenomena in Wexler and Ribar Best of the Jefferson nickel Varieties Vol 2 book.
In the beginning it has a section on different types of doubling, some of which are actual doubled dies and others that often get confused as such.
I was correct when I stated this is Die Deterioration Doubling, which comes from over use of dies, and actually has no real value as a doubled die variety, except for collectors education.
BTW, I do believe that the C0-author Brian Ribar is a member of CCF.
I wish he would comment on this but I am at a loss as to what his forum name is.
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i guess it would have value to someone trying to complete a full set of jeffersons with Die Deterioration.
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