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New Member
United States
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Hi, I inherited this gold piece. I'm wondering if it's worth grading, I would appreciate any insights on it's possible grade and value.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 to The Community! If real, this is a "common" date $20 that appears to have been harshly cleaned and "whizzed". The "orange peel" surface of the fields are a sure sign of whizzing. If graded, the coin would most likely receive a details grade. Still would be worth it's gold value which isn't chump change in the world economy we live in today.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm def not the expert on gold, but it just doesn't look right to me. The date and lettering looks a bit mushy.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The date and lettering looks a bit mushy.  Comparing your coin to genuine examples on PCGS, the letters and numbers seem too thick and mushy. I'd suspect a counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm not into gold so I have no idea if there are different varieties this year. the MM is not positioned correctly when comparing with known genuine examples that I could find. the surfaces especially obv just don't look right for higher grade gold but it could be the photos which can really alter what a coin in hand actually looks like.
cant say if its genuine or not but looks MS if it is
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Counterfeit for sure. Strike and lettering are bad and it just doesn't look right.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6270 Posts |
I notice lumps on the obverse stars. Liberty's profile is very weak by the nose. Overall look seems off.
What is the weight? A high-grade double eagle should weigh very close to 33.4 grams.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It doesn't look good but might still be 90% gold. I'd verify the weight and dimensions. As noted above it should weigh 33.4 grams and be 34mm in diameter. Thickness wasn't a standard mint spec but should be close to 2.8mm.
It's polished and/or improperly cleaned if genuine.
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New Member
 United States
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The coin is coming in at a mass of 33.44g and measures 34mm in diameter.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The coin is coming in at a mass of 33.44g and measures 34mm in diameter. That is good to hear. Does it appear to be about 2.8mm in thickness? If it does then there's a chance it's a contemporary counterfeit made primarily of gold. The details of the devices do appear questionable, particularly the obverse. If I owned it I would take it to a reputable coin or jewelry dealer and have them confirm its metallic content. An XRF test can do that without damaging the piece. Meanwhile, can you post another pic of the obverse from a slightly different angle? Best of luck!
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Fields look suspiciously rough.
Almost complete lack of radial luster, which should be obvious at this condition level.
1. Check it for weight.
2. Even if weight correct, it still may have a tungsten core with a thick gold covering.
3. Check for ping tone against known genuine.
4. Ultrasound testing still may be required. Will need a professional testing lab for this.
Note:- Almost every common date US gold coin has been faked.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks like a die transfer counterfeit that did not turn out to well. If it is made from real gold, it still has a value in the $2700 range. Below are some photos to compare the OP example to a genuine example.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome to CCF! The surfaces look rough. If there is a local coin store in your area take it there, see if they have an XRF analyzer to test it's actual metal composition. Or perhaps there is a coin club near you, a collector may have an XRF. If counterfeit but still gold, it's worth gold melt value.
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02/10/2025 06:11 am
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Taiwan
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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NorCalUSA91, if you get it tested to see if it's gold please let us know. The $20 coins are 90% gold, .9675 oz and 10% copper alloy.
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02/10/2025 06:21 am
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