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1793 Flowing Hair Wreath Cent! What Variety?

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Hi there! Any Sheldon-heads able to tell me what variety this wreath cent is? I found it metal detecting and want to get it looked at (and conserved) by pcgs or ngc, but not sure which company has a better track record for conserving dug coppers. I thought for sure it was a strawberry leaf because of the three finger "leaf" over the 3, but that might just be corrosion. The N on the reverse looks closer to the bow than any Sheldon variety I can find. any help/advice would be super appreciated!
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Nice metal detecting find! Congrats!

I'm sure some of the Early American Copper collectors will be here soon to help you out.

As far as conservation goes I have no idea of success rates or if it's even doable.

Good luck!

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Great candidate for an olive oil soak .
Leave it for a couple of months ,
Just might come out decent .
Great find !
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Any 1793 cent is a special find, and if it turned out to be a Strawberry Leaf then it would be historic, as only 4 are known to exist. Keep posted!
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Curious to see images of the edge.
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Too bad Conder wasn't around. He would probably be able to figure it out.
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Wow...what a great find!

Will be watching this thread to see how this turns out...
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Sheldon heads... LOL

I'm an Overton head but the same rules apply.

Your coin is an S-11. But there are three sub varieties attributed by edge design listed below:
S-11A: Vine and bars edge. R-4+
S-11B: Lettered edge with doubles leaves. R-4
S-11C: Lettered edge with single leaf. R-3-
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Thank you for all the replies!
jacrispies - thanks for your insight! What are the distinguishing characteristics that helped you identify it as an S 11? I believe the edge is vines and bars but I'll take a closer look and upload a pic. Should I send this to PCGS or NGC? or is ANACS fine?
Thanks again!
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The R in LIBERTY to the hairline was the first point of reference. That narrows it down to S-8, S-9 (both obv. 9), and S-11 (obv. 11). The reverse distinguished by the wreath leaves underneath CENT. There is one leaf centered beneath the C, and two leaves spaciously positioned under the T.

The obverse leaves would have been the easiest attribute but they are indistinguishable on your coin.

I would recommend NGC conservation services but I do not know if they have an early copper specialty. They have been reliable otherwise so it may be worth a try.
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Wow! that's very thorough! thank you! If it is an 11a I guess that's pretty darn rare
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Wow! Spectacular coin. I've got a metal detecting event next weekend, and I can only dream of finding such a coin.
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Sorry wasn't around but I do concur it is a S-11. I keyed on the ONE CENT the bow, and the leaves to the left of the denomination. S-5, 6,and 7 have ONE CENT high well away from the bow. S-8 has berries to the left of C, this coin has a leaf. S-9 has a clover tot eh left of the C and a single leaf above that that goes up at a 45 degree angle and points at the top of the O, that doesn't match, NC-4 has one leaf rising close to vertically left of the C and one leaf above that that points nearly horizontal at the top of the O, Doesn't match yours. S-11 has three leaves to the left of ONE CENT. One the extend above the C to about midway between the two words, one that reaches the midline of the O, and one close above that that extends above the O. That matches your coin.
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