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Redesigned US Mint Web Site - Horrid

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 Posted 05/05/2025  01:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm sure I've said this before, however I feel it needs to be restated in the (unlikely) hopes that someone from the US Mint actually reads posts from a forum that a large number of their constituent buyers are a part of. The redesigned US Mint site SUCKS.

What focus group did they discuss the design change with? The Workday design team? What used to take 3 clicks now takes 30. It's a disaster. Completely inefficient. I dislike going to it and they are likely to lose a lot of sales from folks like me that just abandon it due to the sheer absurtity of navigation. I wonder what their analytcs are telling them. Probably getting lots of postitve spin on it from folks that need to keep their jobs.

Old man yells at cloud, I get it, but man, why fix what wasn't broken? Not everyone uses a cell phone to browse these days. Hey, guess what, you can design/develop based on browser! Guessing a new marketing director or PM that doesn't actually shop on the site needed to feel useful.

Bleah. My subscriptions are going to go away soon, probably after the 250th releases.

Yes, I'm in a bad mood tonight, sorry, but trying to find any info on an upcoming release was (almost) worse than getting a root canal. At this point I'll go anywhere besides the US Mint site for info on upcoming releases unless I want a photo-heavy experience with lots of useless (load more!) clicking.

Apologies to CCF mods if this rant is out of bounds or in the wrong forum.
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05/05/2025 01:47 am
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Reminder that the US Mint does not run the web site. PFS Web does. https://govtribe.com/vendors/priori...fs-web-3rtq4
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Reminder that the US Mint does not run the web site.

Good to know but doesn't change anything about the state of the site itself.

Just reinforces my opinion. A 3rd party that clearly doesn't know squat about efficent web design

And yes, it's just one person's opinion.
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Websites and software are often designed around features or products, not around user tasks. That's an inevitable result of design-by-committee, especially after you involve the marketing and advertising folks. Almost all people who work on a system are not actual users of the system, and so they never really understand the various intentions of real users interacting with their system.

A lot of that also has to do with metrics and their misapplication. Marketing gets very excited about interactions—because interactions are perceived to be opportunities for sales and upselling—not realizing that inefficient designs produce way more interactions, but also lower sales chances due to user frustration.

TL;DR: authoring useful websites is hard. =P
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I agree that the website redesign is horrid. The entire product schedule should be viewable in a single click, not eight clicks (I bookmarked this link to get around that).

But that inconvenience pales in comparison to the scrubbing of historical information and photos from the new website. The Commemorative Coins page is an example. Whereas before they had separate pages for every commemorative program, now they only have pages for the three most recent programs, and even those three have considerably less information than they did under the old website! Meanwhile, much of the historical information about and photos of past coin programs and types are gone.

The redesign gets an F in my book.

I'll note that to access all the missing information, I use the Wayback Machine. It's very sluggish and cumbersome, but it offers a fun way to explore the Mint's past websites and products. Also on a different subject, I seem to recall a thread from @CelticKnot looking for old Mint product codes, and the Wayback Machine would be a good source for those.
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The U S Dis-Appointmints deserve an Outstanding F for Failure.

The site " use to be " easily navigable, Easily read, Simple to browse at a Touch.

Now, The system seems that they are appealing to the newer, Younger, More computer savvy clients, Not us Ole Coin Collectors, .....

@ Celtic, I Understand, There's always Tomorrow, Feel Better, My Friend....

PS, On the ever so possible chance a person of determination and fortitude comes along, That can make a difference, Please give us back the " old " site,.............................
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As someone who is a marketer, it seems to me the site has been redesigned to maximize SEO (search engine optimization). We've had to make changes to our corporate site that are similar - they don't help the user experience. The reality is you need to get folks to the website first.

So focus some of your angst toward Alphabet (Google).
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The reality is you need to get folks to the website first.
This is true.

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So focus some of your angst toward Alphabet (Google).
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Hrm. I don't think that causing more website impressions should come at a cost of usability. Otherwise you are trading slightly more traffic for a lowered probability of completing a sale (which is the real point of the website).

What about the redesign would make it better for SEO?
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Hrm. I don't think that causing more website impressions should come at a cost of usability.
True, but the path of least resistance in coding comes at the expense of user experience.

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What about the redesign would make it better for SEO?
From my own experience, wholesale platform change. So, you have to rebuild the site from scratch using the tools available....

Fast, Cheap, Reliable. Pick two.
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 Posted 05/07/2025  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erscolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The website is the website. Most modern technology is unreliable and not designed to be at all user friendly. Most of it approaches worthless in my book.

That being said, my only issue in 2025 beyond this with the Mint is that their so-called loyalty program for "free" budget postage has never engaged with my account. I no longer order anything from them that was not already on my subscription. Four plus months into 2025 and it remains broke. That is the lot I get for living in this technological age.

So not ordering anything from the mint saves having to work with a website, and since virtually all websites are designed by millennials with no grasp of reality or common sense, this web site does not stick out as worse than any other.
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That being said, my only issue in 2025 beyond this with the Mint is that their so-called loyalty program for "free" budget postage has never engaged with my account. I no longer order anything from them that was not already on my subscription. Four plus months into 2025 and it remains broke.
Funny, for the last few years I have received loyalty "free shipping" after my third subscription (all shipped free) has been delivered. For that reason, I am glad the things I want that are not on sub come out—or are at least still available—later in the year.
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Redesign sucks but what is even worse is that CCAC meeting is no longer on the main page. You have to click the "Whats New" tab and scroll down. In the past they gave you brief summaries of meetings and pictures that were presented for coin/medal design. Now they just give you the minutes and a link to their youtube video for the full 1hr meeting. That is my biggest issue with the new update.
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Interesting commentary and thanks for absorbing my rant, everyone.

At the time of my rant, I had *just* visited the web site and all I wanted to do was find out info on the upcoming privied 2025 ASEs, which there is none (like release date). It took 3 minutes of clicking "show more" on the upcoming releases page to get to the products I wanted to see to find the not-yet-available info. It is what it is; I understand that info isn't available yet, but it really would have been nice to find that out in 30 seconds vs 3 minutes.

I think this horrible web UI design trend even applies to captive audiences in the corporate environment. I'm talking about giants like ServiceNow and Workday. Why would you make things so cryptic and unintuitve for people that are paying you gobs of money for your software? Yes I know the/several answer(s).


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The reality is you need to get folks to the website first.

I don't see how that's relevant in this case, unless people were fleeing by the thousands, becuase there were already plenty of people shopping the site (2019 ERP and 2020 v70, anyone?). Once upon a time I went to the US mint site weekly or more but now I couldn't care less about the site, just like they do. I have most of the products I want already coming to me on subscription. If I could put the privy ASEs on subs I would to avoid having to deal with navigating this mess. I'm really looking forward to the next survey that pops up when I visit the Mint site next.

In addition I do realize that clicks are revenue in a lot of cases and that clowns (ahem, "customers") like me that prefer to browse from a PC-based web browser are likely dwindling / aging out.

Darn, I just ranted again. [/rant] I promise I'm done this time. It's not worth the keystrokes.


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@ Celtic, I Understand, There's always Tomorrow, Feel Better, My Friend....

Thanks @Morgans Dad. I just needed a deep breath.
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