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Valued Member
United States
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I have been collecting coins for years and I am curious what others see as the future of penny values. Do you see the collectors saving Pennie's to be a good thing, or do you see collectors dumping Pennie's and the collector value going down. Thank you for your opinion of the future of penny collect penny values.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I feel like there will be an initial slight bump, followed by a "settling," due to vast quantities minted. Think about Morgan dollars: despite the large number lost to melting, common, circulated examples can still be had for basically spot.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pretty much agree with halfamind--likely a modest bump, then a settling.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm expecting some significant moves for the post-'64 cents because this will draw a lot of attention to coins that have never been collected. While all the regular issues are common there are numerous great varieties and Gems that can be far more difficult to obtain than collectors realize. Many dates are almost always covered in scratches, bubbles, or carbon spots. Some dates are very poorly made. Nice attractive coins can be elusive. There should be some increase in all one cent US coins but earlier issues are all known quantities. There simply are no surprises in store as to their availability. Some issues like 55 DDO or 1804 cents might get more attention and more demand but it will be limited to specific issues that are more desirable to a new generation of collectors.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Valued Member
United States
216 Posts |
Does anyone know what happened in Canada when they stopped minting the cent?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
10470 Posts |
I don't think anything will "change" 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1107 Posts |
As someone who has avidly gotten into collecting Lincoln cents, particularly the wheats, I hope it doesn't affect too much. I bought my first expensive purchase, the 1909-S, which cost me nearly 100 dollars. I am also eyeing up the 1931-S and 1914-D in the future, but I will be pretty limited in terms of budget if the prices go up a lot more than they already are. The 1931-S on ebay seems to average around 100+ dollars. 1914-D seems to average around 150+ dollars. Thats quite a lot for me. Lol.
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 Australia
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Quote: Does anyone know what happened in Canada when they stopped minting the cent? Prices for Canadian pennies have not moved significantly since discontinuation in 2012. In effect, they still trade for either 1 cent (for cheap-metal coins) or for metal-content value (for bronze coins). Finding people to actually give you metal-content value rather than face value may not be easy, since destroying them remains illegal. Prices for Australian 1 cent coins have not moved significantly since discontinuation in 1991. These coins never devolved into a cheap-metal version, so they effectively trade for metal-content value. Finding people to actually give you metal-content value rather than face value may not be easy, since destroying them remains illegal. Prices for New Zealand obsolete coinage (1 cent through to 50 cent) went crazy immediately following their discontinuation (1987 for the 1c and 2c, 2006 for 5c to 50c), but have since settled back down to more sensible levels as people realized the supply of obsolete coinage wasn't going to disappear overnight. To put it in broad economic terms, the supply decreases because the coins are no longer readily available in commerce. Demand also decreases because fewer new collectors become interested in the series as they are no longer seen every day or are considered part of the current coinage series. When both supply and demand fall, prices stay the same. There may be a "price spike" if collectors get into the mindset that "this is their last chance to complete the set" or whatever, but prices should subside again once the hype ends.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I doubt values will change much. The pre-Zincolns will see appreciation as copper rises in value. The Zincolns will linger until there is some sort of alloy recovery program. Since they will continue to be legal tender, they will be spendable in groups of 5 even when most businesses are rounding.
Edited by DoubleEagle20 05/27/2025 12:56 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Prices for New Zealand obsolete coinage (1 cent through to 50 cent) went crazy immediately following their discontinuation (1987 for the 1c and 2c, 2006 for 5c to 50c), but have since settled back down to more sensible levels as people realized the supply of obsolete coinage wasn't going to disappear overnight. Just to be clear, 10c, 20c, and 50c coins are still minted for New Zealand. As of July 2006, they are smaller than before and use plated steel. The previous larger versions are no longer legal tender.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
188 Posts |
In practical terms, some of it comes down to how people view the items after either production is stopped or they are demonetized, bearing in mind those are two rather different things. While one cent coins are barely worth anything anyway in the US, whether in terms of purchasing power or metal content, as a collectible item it's hard to imagine any year/mintage over a billion coins ever accruing much value, with the exception of specimen pieces, be they errors or just really high grade pieces. But as long as they remain "money", they'll be floating about the place anyway. New Zealand is an interesting example as even demonetised coins can be redeemed through the Reserve Bank: https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/money-and-...-or-old-cashAnd that includes before the move to dollars and cents in 1967, so we're talking pounds, shillings and pence. And that can possibly even include pre-NZ coinage, which prior to the early 1930s meant British coins. Apparently that can be more of a battle, and would be foolish in numismatic terms much of the time, or in terms of PMs as quite a few were sterling silver up through 1920 or so. As it is, older coins are available on the local online auction site, as well as at local auction houses. Accumulations of older coins will come up, and go for anything to scrap up to something approaching numismatic value, or even exceeding it if people don't know what they're doing. Kind of the same story everywhere on that last point. One and Two Cent coins in particular seem to be in good supply, as are pre-decimal coins, so the pre-1967 stuff. Likewise, when they introduced the one and two dollar coin in the early 90s they phased out the one and two dollar notes. I hope the US comes to its senses and elimiates the dollar note sooner or later. In any case, those old notes can similarly be traded in for modern money. Those notes remain collectable and come up at auction often as well. Anyone under the age of 40 would probably give you a funny look if you tried to present one. In saying that, I get funny looks in the US when I try and spend a Kennedy half.
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Edited by Buffalo soldat 05/30/2025 10:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Most LHCs minted in the past 40 years have mintages in the billions. IMO, those penny values are going to stay right where they are: $0.01 each.
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Valued Member
United States
172 Posts |
For Memorial Lincoln cents, I think the only coins that will develop a healthy premium (ir have already) are true uncirculated gems from MS68 - 70 or for some years MS66 and higher. Why? First the zircoins produced since 1983 are far more prone to rotting and poor toning than the prior bronze ones. Also if one has ever gotton an older uncirculated roll of zircoins form the bank you will find how spotted they become - to the point they are not worth keeping. You can get fresh rolls and when you find one not scratched or with a few spots then I would clean with mild soap and distilled water folloed by a quick dip in acetone. And (I know I will get critcised for this), but spraying foam cleaner (ammonia based) onto a cloth and soaking the coin for a few minutes seems to help with retarding any further development of spots for at least the medium term. Note, I do not recommend the aforementioned cleaning methods for truly valuable numismatic items.
Another area you can obtain gem cents (although not entirely guaranteed) are purchaing Mint sets. The added bonus is sales of these have been declining for decades and final sales total usually anywhere from 200,000 - 350,000. Not bad. But to find gems you would have to buy several sets to search.
Pre- Memorial cents will have their premiums rise far more slowly and mainly for uncirculated ones with only a few exceptions (keydates, rare errors).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3619 Posts |
Would values of pre-EU coinage of EU member nations also be a parallel? That's out of my wheelhouse, but I would like to hear how those prices have fared. Thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: For Memorial Lincoln cents, I think the only coins that will develop a healthy premium (ir have already) are true uncirculated gems from MS68 - 70 or for some years MS66 and higher. Why? First the zircoins produced since 1983 are far more prone to rotting and poor toning than the prior bronze ones. Also if one has ever gotton an older uncirculated roll of zircoins form the bank you will find how spotted they become - to the point they are not worth keeping. You can get fresh rolls and when you find one not scratched or with a few spots then I would clean with mild soap and distilled water folloed by a quick dip in acetone. And (I know I will get critcised for this), but spraying foam cleaner (ammonia based) onto a cloth and soaking the coin for a few minutes seems to help with retarding any further development of spots for at least the medium term. Note, I do not recommend the aforementioned cleaning methods for truly valuable numismatic items.
Another area you can obtain gem cents (although not entirely guaranteed) are purchaing Mint sets. The added bonus is sales of these have been declining for decades and final sales total usually anywhere from 200,000 - 350,000. Not bad. But to find gems you would have to buy several sets to search.
Pre- Memorial cents will have their premiums rise far more slowly and mainly for uncirculated ones with only a few exceptions (keydates, rare errors). I don't disagree with you. But in order for there to be many people collecting the rare high grades I believe the lower end Gems will have to fall under mass demand. It is from this pool a demand for the rarities above can emerge. I believe this is where the real opportunity exists. The high grades are rare and cost a lot of money to acquire. Profits are limited to an order of magnitude. But Gems can be acquired for pennies and can be nearly as scarce.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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