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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum.  ***The toning is throwing me off. Just a ballpark grade would help me as what to do next.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Umm .that needs to be authenticated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
743 Posts |
Color looks off, I would say AU details questionable color. Can you post a close-up of the mint mark?
Tim Hughes
Edited by Onedollarbillnut
06/10/2025 8:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2001 Posts |
 with Pacificoin. I'd like to see a clear large cropped pics of the date with mint mark, the N of United, and the V.D.B. Also the toning looks a bit suspect to me along with what appears to be die chips on the wheat ears. From what I can tell the closest match is MM position #4 but not sure it is a perfect match. Edited by MisterT
06/10/2025 8:28 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks suspicious to me. I'm not sure if it's legitimate or not.
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys
06/10/2025 9:03 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think questions concerning the date and mint mark outweigh the toning issue--at least for the moment. I see evidence of woody characteristics. In all, a curious piece. Hope we learn more.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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questions concerning the date and mint mark outweigh the toning issue- although blurry when zoomed in on I don't/can't see the dot inside the mint mark. Please supply better photo of the date and mint mark....  |
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United States
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 to the CCF Our experts are uncertain of authenticity based on the photos provided. You are showing what appears to be a high AU coin which would have a significant numismatic premium - if genuine. If for some reason you are not able to provide the requested additional photos then this needs to go to a top tier TPG. |
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 United States
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I've tried to get a pic. Of the mint mark that shows the dot in the upper curve of the "S". I think the V.D.B. pic. Shows well. The reverse appears to have some contamination around the "I" in AMERICA and around the upper inside edge of the wheat ear.   |
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New Member
United States
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Additional photos. |
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New Member
United States
21 Posts |
A bit better mint mark photo. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5661 Posts |
It looks genuine to me, although sharper photos would definitely help. I'd call it AU details, questionable color.
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Valued Member
United States
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Pictures are too out of focus for me. A better, focused pic of the mint mark and the V.D.B. would be needed. I have several of these in various grades. It is one of the few coins I am confident in authenticating with a clear image of the mint mark and its position, and the details of the initials V.D.B.. Most counterfeits are obvious, but an altered 1909 VDB with added S, or a 1909 S with added V.D.B., can be tricky to discern.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since you get the idea of how to post pics...better in focus pics are needed.
smat
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New Member
United States
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I would like to thank you all for your input.
I'm 84 and just made possibly the biggest coin investment and coin for my collection.
Always wanted a 1909-S V.D.B.
I broke down and am sending the coin to PCGS.
At just North of dropping 2K for this coin, I need to know!
When I get it back I'll let you know the results.
Thanks again people.
Appreciated,
Bob
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good luck! I'm pretty sure it will come back genuine, but I also suspect the toning is artificial. Perhaps that's why it's not already in a slab. Hope you get a good result!
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Posted 06/10/2025 8:17 pm
