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1981 LMC With Possible Die Crack Across Obverse.

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@arm, I got pretty excited looking at this coin at first. Upon further review, I'm not so sure that you have a rim-to-rim die crack. With the heavy circulation wear it is tough to know for sure, but it looks to me like there might have been a die crack through the U of TRUST, but then someone took a sharp edge and extended it all the way down to the other rim. I can tell this because this lower section seems to have more of a cut portion to the right and "smushed" metal to the left.
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 Posted 07/22/2025  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a big long scratch to me.
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Yes, looks a bit suspect where the linear feature exits the base of the bust.
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 Posted 07/22/2025  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I totally agree with Spence on this.
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It does look like a cut - but then again I don't know how a thin cut could raise so much metal!
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Looks like a RRDC and a nice one at that but with some lighting issue making it look like a scratch? Can we get another closeup photo of the bottom bust at different angle?
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
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 Posted 07/23/2025  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Spence on this one.
A die crack that has been extended with a scratch.
How can you have a crack showing on the rims when they
are preformed and the die does not extend over the rim.
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Looking at the larger images (click on them), it could be both... RRDB and a scratch tracing it.
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Somebody tried to cut it in half with a big kitchen knife.
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Definitely a "knifed" coin. The upheaved metal mostly smoothed over with time.
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here are some more pics
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Thanks for the photos. Unfortunately it does look more like a deeply scratched surface. I don't think I've seen wear resemble a rim to rim die break like this before though.
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Thanks for the photos. Unfortunately it does look more like a deeply scratched surface. I don't think I've seen wear resemble a rim to rim die break like this before though.
Seen a pile of them with Morgan dollars, same concept.
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