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West Virginia Token With Flemish Name

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 Posted 10/21/2025  2:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pacact to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Southern West Virginia. Found on house site where civil war buttons and 1864 2¢ coin found.
Scalloped edges. Says "Good for 5¢ at The Bar" on one side,
the other side says "A. DeSCHRYVER"
Buffalo nickle for size reference
I have searched old local newspaper from this area and cannot find any reference with that name. Seems to be Flemish with few examples in US
Thanks for any help

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 Posted 10/21/2025  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing on tokencatalog.
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Possibly Poirot could solve it (oh, wait ... he's Walloon, not Flemish).
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@pac, that is a really interesting token. I agree with @hon that there isn't an exact match in tokencatalog for that name. I did some targeting searching on the very common "Good for 5¢ at The Bar" phrase for the state of West Virginia plus Kentucky and Virginia as you mentioned the find location in southern West Virginia. I still didn't find anything particularly noteworthy except for a Kentucky token with the same 12 lobe edge, multiple lines with pearls rim contours, and angled stroke on the cent sign. In this one (as well as yours) the name looks applied by hand as the letters aren't super straight. I'm not saying that these two pieces are connected specifically but rather wondering if there wasn't a stock design with one side blank for folks to add their name. Here is the tokencatalog link:

https://tokencatalog.com/token_reco...rd_offset=29

At the very least, I'd recommend reaching out to them to see if they might post it as a discovery piece.

Added: another largely dead pathway is that on find-a-grave, of the ten folks buried in the United States with a first name beginning with an A and DeSchryver as a last name, seven are in Michigan, two in New Jersey, and one in Missouri.

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Added: another largely dead pathway is that on find-a-grave,



Nice. I would never have thought of that even though I spend a fair amount of time on that site. Family Search also allows searching on Name X Place combinations and could be another avenue.
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No answers here, but just a couple thoughts to toss out for discussion. The "de" prefix also could be Dutch, especially for people whose families came from French Huguenot backgrounds. Also, many people later dropped the "de" prefix. What would a search under the last name "Schryver" produce? And what if the name was later anglicized to "Schreiber"? Would any of these show up in token catalogs?

EDIT: One more thought. This was found along with Civil War coins and buttons. Could it have been brought there by a Union soldier, maybe as a pocket piece? Is it worth searching Civil War records for soldiers with the name Schryver or deSchryver? That definitely could make New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania possible places of origin for the token.
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Good thought @fort. I just checked fold3.com for civil war veterans with the last name of DeSchryver and only found two: Joseph and Francis J (also found with the more anglicized last name of DeShriver). Removing the "De" at the start of the last name really opens things up. For example, there were several Schryvers with first names beginning with the letter A including Alfred and Andrew. I'm just not sure what to do with this information as clearly they weren't saloon owners during the war and we aren't even sure that they were the generation in their family to shorten their name.
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There is some great info coming in. Thank You all.
Sometimes the research is as fun as swinging a detector.
I have searched the newspaper data bases for WV back to the turn of the century with no luck on any name variation in this area.
I have found strange coins before in strange places, an ancient Indian coin in Odd,WV, French coins on the bottom of Summersville lake after a winter drain down with a Buffalo nickel .
I think our rural lads went off to foreign parts during wars and came home with pockets full of souvenirs.
The Kentucky token referenced above is such a close match it must be dated about the same, late 1800's. But where from? Probably will be some winter evening research. Thanks again Glad for the interest
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Another avenue to possibly pursue is "de Schryver", with a space? I can't tell if there's supposed to be a space in the name on the token or not.
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There's an August DeSchryver in Detroit in the 1900 census. He is listed as a saloon keeper. He shows up in the directories at 1100 Champlain St. I found some newspaper mentions of political meetings (c. 1901) taking place at DeSchryver's Place or DeSchryver's Hall. I think Champlain Street might now be East Lafayette---?

Here's his Find a Grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...t-deschryver
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Brummagem,
That is great information. It is the closet thing I have seen to explain this token. I am less surprised now when I find items out of context. I have found, Missouri and Oklahoma tax tokens, Ohio bus ride tokens, French coins and etc, all on rural WV farms. I imagine these WV boys went off to various wars and carried back pocket souvenirs. Thanks for the info, it's another rabbit hole to start down. I found storekeepers in Pennsylvania with correct name and initials but no bars or similar
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