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Is this a mint error (12 o'clock on the rim)? It is on the coin not the slab. If it is a mint error why would PCGS not call it out? Conversely, if this is not a mint error, why would PCGS grade it at PR70?  |
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I hope you get an experienced Slab collector, I am Not a slab expert. Although I have seen " imperfect " coins in a slab graded MS-70 like Yours, People have asked the question before, How can an imperfect coin get a Perfect coin grade? These are Some of my observations, In order to receive an Error designation, maybe you have to ask for that service, I believe they do Not make that decision, I could be wrong. Also I have read opinions that a coin that leaves the U S Mint, Must be perfect, How could they make anything but brand new perfect coins. Lastly, I have heard people in discussions that say IF it happened After it left the U S Mint, its considered Post Mint damage. If it happened at the Mint, We call it a U S Mint Error. Let's discuss Your 2018 Palladium Eagle " Error " Mint finning, I have some of these as mentioned prior by Dearborn, The Finning shown by His Awesome photos are a Perfect example of a Mint produced Error.( they do not make imperfect coins )  Your Palladium Eagle shows areas that appear to be Finning, There is also what appears to be a Possible Strike Through. Please post more precise photos @ 12 O'clock. Thanks Again for Sharing, MD |
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When did PCGS put the label on the bottom?
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That is the reverse. They put the label information on the reverse when there is a special one on the obverse, for example, the Presidential dollars. |
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@Keith67, On the OBV, the label is on top and normal orientation. On the REV, it looks like they printed it upside down to match the coin orientation.  |
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Thank you for sharing the obverse photo.  |
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@Morgans Dad, these are the best pictures I can muster. Note that when I look all around the edges of my Palladiums with a higher powered magnifying glass, they all look terrible, LOL. But this one is bad with the naked eye, thus me calling it out. I was wondering if the mint or the grading services have a hard time with these coins, because they are pretty thick compared to other Precious Metal bullions given the lower density of Palladium vs. Platinum and Gold.   |
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@Errers and Varietys (Eye Cee whut yoo did their  ) Thank you for the Welcome!!! |
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Thanks for the Photos, The area in question looks like it was Damaged during Minting as " something " that struck it leaves " shrapnel " seen as Glare or Light in between the Letters A T E in states. I also see Above the words STATES OF Shows Collar/Reed damage that actually extends Before States and while minimally, Its seen traveling further to the letters AMER, from America, Especially along the collars side, along the Reeded edge. Not sure what did this, I would speculate it is a Mint Damaged Error, Just my opinion. Maybe a slab expert Here will chime in, Best Wishes, Thanks Again for sharing, MD. Edited by Morgans Dad
02/09/2026 5:17 pm
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@jbuck thank you for correcting my error and the welcome.
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to CCF. I see that PCGS started inverting the reverse side label so it is of the proper orientation in relation to the coin. It does appear that the reverse side in a minor MAD strike (Mis- Aligned Die) which could have led to the rim getting damaged (possibly when it was ejected from the press or other machinery. I would not call it an error though - it looks damaged to me. |
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Dearborn Stated, Quote: " I would not call it an error though - it looks damaged to me. " If a coin leaves the mint in that condition, People refer to it as a Mint Error, No ? |
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@jbuck thank you for correcting my error and the welcome. My pleasure. |
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@Dearborn
Thank you for the welcome!!!
Now that you mention that "It does appear that the reverse side in a minor MAD strike (Mis- Aligned Die) which could have led to the rim getting damaged (possibly when it was ejected from the press or other machinery," I can definitely see the REV misalignment when compared to the OBV.
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@Morgans Dad:
Regarding "If a coin leaves the mint in that condition, People refer to it as a Mint Error, No ?" I always thought the same, but I am definitely a novice in that area.
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This does bring me back to my original question "If it is a mint error why would PCGS not call it out? Conversely, if this is not a mint error, why would PCGS grade it at PR70?"
I was thinking about sending it in to another grading company (maybe CACG?) to get an additional viewpoint and add to the documented history of US Mint modern bullions. Note I am not really interested in value, as I plan on passing off my collection to my kids.
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