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What you got?   |
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To these amateur eyes, it looks well struck, pretty clean fields, the dig on the cheek is a little distracting. I'd say MS64
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I'm at MS-64 as well.
Errers and Varietys.
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Would what appears to be struck though error on cheek above roller lines affect grade?  |
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MS64#65292;and I will not take the dig on check as strike through by those pics.
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one the most common Morgans especially in higher grades. they were well struck.just look at the hair detail around the ear and the feathers on the breast.
if that abrasion was via rollers it would still affect the grade but only when added to other marks on the coin. if the that dig was a strike through it would be raised which it does not appear to be and there would not be just a little spot like that, we would see other areas as well. its right in the sweet spot.
there is also several abrasions at the back of the jaw. without these flaws it would be MS65. i'll call it MS64 as well. still a nice coin Odee
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Thanks Panzaldi, if it was an object pressed in wouldn't it be indented and not raised? I thought strike through because I don't see metal pushed to the side anywhere which PMD would typically cause I feel like, also seems it would have been a pretty clean dig with no indication of other marks or scrapes indicating which direction it can from. I'm not saying it isn't a dig just was my initial thought. I also thought that could have caused the roller marks because the object created improper pressure and the lower chin wasn't struck fully resulting in not eliminating the roller marks. Maybe I'm way off and that can't happen it's coincidence. Also I probably have no clue what I'm talking about Edited by Odee13
03/28/2026 2:22 pm
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Image including surrounding area. Around the indent the surface texture is different. I have other coins with roller marks in similar areas, so I know this could just be coincidence.  |
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I agree that if it was a gouge, I'd think we would see some metal displacement. Might it be some sort of planchet defect?
I also agree that it looks like roller marks across the jaw.
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Odee a strikthrough comes in from the opposite side of the coin where that side is forced through the metal and appears as raised area on the other side. the only way a hit like this can occur is if someone was on the die when it was struck forcing it into the metal and causing the recessed area
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I'm going to give it a 65. The reverse is just exceptional and the obverse holds up, gouge and all. One of the best struck MSD's Ive seen.
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Seems like an MS-64 to me as well. @Silverskunk, there is a very good book by Bowers on Morgan dollars that goes through each date and mintmark, highlighting strike characteristics, etc. 1881S is known as one of the better struck dates if not the best. The other end of the spectrum is a 90-O or 91-O which are almost always flat over the ear. |
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Four generalizations about 1881-S Morgans:  They are exceedingly common. Well over 300 bags of 1881-S dollars have been slabbed. They are readily available as UNC rolls. Private collectors are still sitting on complete bags of this date. I'm old enough to remember collectors and dealers griping that they waited hours in line and were disappointed to get bags of 1881-S dollars during the last months of the silver rush, when the Federal Reserve Banks were restricting purchases to two bags. (They shouldn't have complained. At least they weren't 1921 Morgans or the endless bags of common date Peace dollars.) About half of them land on MS-64. That's almost the default grade for the date. The San Fransisco bags apparently weren't tossed around like sacks of flour as often as the New Orleans bags. PL and DMPL coins are common, and among the most beautiful of the series. That, and overall strike quality, make the date an easy choice for type sets. |
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Posted 03/27/2026 7:33 pm
