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1957 Lincoln Wheat Cent - I Need Serious Help

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I am perplexed! I have had these pennies rolled from the mint since day one and I have just opened them and begun searching through them. A majority of them have large amounts of silver showing through. For instance look at the attached photo below and note that the brown part in the fields are copper and the rest is shiny like a silver medal alloy of some type. I have many of these from 1955, 1956 and 1957. I am not sure if they experimented with plating with copper at that time and it did not work correctly and for some reason these pennies manage their way through inspection and into circulation; or if the raw planchets themselves were defective. I am 100% certain that none of these coins have either been touched or clean by human hands. Please give me feedback, please as I don't have far to go before I make a left-hand turn into the NU T. house.

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 Posted 12/29/2009  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ferret552 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there was a similar thread here earlier... something about the metals not mixing correctly. BadThad or someone else should be here shortly to clean up my mess and clarify. But I'm about certain it's not silver.
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 Posted 12/29/2009  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hemisboats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I better clarify. When I say silver I am actually referring to the tin or zinc and not the precious metal. There was a similar thread that I started Re: a different coin but these just keep getting uglier and uglier as far as something they would like to go out of the mint.
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 Posted 12/29/2009  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is toning, probably from the roll paper. That is a particularly nice one though
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 Posted 12/29/2009  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clintonfitch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Biokemist stole my question - could it be toning? Related, what was the condition of the wrappers and how have they been stored? That could tie into it as well?

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First things first...in 1957 the U.S. mint didn't wrap any coins. They sent everything to the Fed Reserve in canvas bags. The Fed Reserve either sold the bags to banks or wrapped the coins for further distribution. Most were sold directly to banks and were wrapped at the banks. Some banks wrapped at each branch, others had a central branch where all the wrapping was done. Still yet others had companies like Brinks do their wrapping.

So...with that out of the way, your coin is toned, and it's toned because of its storage method. It has nothing to do with metals, alloy mixes, or errors.
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 Posted 12/29/2009  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clintonfitch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the history lesson coppercoins - very much appreciated. I did not know the mint did not wrap these coins. Do you know when that practice started?

Thanks,

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Well, there was my mess cleaned up. And that other thread was yours? My bad, totally did not realize that. Anyways, that cleared up a lot for me as well.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where have these coins been stored? This coin looks baked. Since tin and zinc melt at much lower temperatures than copper, it tends to the coin surface when heated. The effect is the most profound on BU coins.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hemisboats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For security reasons I do not want to tell you exactly where they were stored but they were stored in a closet like scenario at room temperature. I did enjoy listening through the history again of how coins at that time came from the mint in bags. I did a dangerous thing when I assumed that everyone here realized they get machine rolled at the facilities, such as banks, which distribute them after the bags are received from the mint. I am sorry, I apologize for not being 100% complete my thought. But once they were rolled they were ever messed with again until just the other day I have several roles left that I will be opening and they are most similar.

Thad, if you wish I will send you a few with no cost to you that you can keep and let me know what you think. Let me know if you wish to do something like this.
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None of this changes the fact that the coins are toned and they are toned the way they are because of how they are stored.

Not even sure I understand the whole "security reasons" thing...I don't think anyone asked for your address.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do you know when that practice started?

Never. The mint does not and never has rolled coins. Even those coins the mint sells as "mint rolled" are rolled by an outside private company.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hemisboats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing personal about the storage of the coins. The reason I did not want to disclose too much information is because I have a psychotic used to frequent this page and lives within a mile of my home. And when I say psychotic, I mean psychotic, off the reservation! In an out of jail's and let's just say rest homes. Trust me it is nothing against anyone else on this page! Everyone here has been a fantastic acquaintance!
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 Posted 12/30/2009  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey hemisboats, could you send me a PM please?
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 Posted 12/30/2009  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hemisboats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at the 5 on these, tons of them in each roll.

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It's a die chip. It's rather common and considered a normal part of the minting process. Not an error.
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