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What Is The Different Between Proof And Silver Proof Set?

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If I buy Proof or Silver Proof Set.
The only different is Half, Quarter and Dime. One set is Silver and the other nickel Clad. They all S mint and Proof. Penny, Nickel and "Gold" are remain other materials. Am I right or wrong?
Need your clarification. Thanks,
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 Posted 05/03/2010  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are correct. Only the composition of the 10, 25 and 50 cent coins change. For the regular set, they're clad. For the silver, they're 90% silver.
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Samuel Tan,
I believe your spot on in your description of a proof set vs a silver proof set. When I started to collect sets I collected the clad proof sets due to the lower price. Now in retrospect I wish I concentrated on the silver proofs both for the lower mintage and of course the silver content. The appearance of silver proofs compared to clad proofs are a big difference with the silver proofs showing a more frosty cameo than the clad proofs. If the community can add anything else I have missed please do.
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Man, I got fast responses.
Thanks guys.
In my other forum, I have to wait a day. I just saw some people from that forum. Don't miss understand me. they are nice people too.
My intention is to collect One each UNC. Since may (in ebay) are selling less grade as UNC, I decided to buy mint set, then cut them out in separate capsules. Anyway, to buy in Mint sets is like buying in bulk, it is less expensive. Cutting them out making them more valuable. To my observation, Silver proof did not achieve the best price like clad proof. May be less collectors or higher price deter the collectors.
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It bothers me that to in order to get all of the proofs each year, one has to buy two sets and then end up with duplicates of the cent, nickel, and dollars.

One can get a regular proof set, then add the silver quarter proof set, but still lack the silver half and dime.

I wish the mint would sell a "complete" proof set that has clad and silver, but no duplicates.
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I believe that to be as you stated it jbuck, a wish.

The major international mints have some very crafty market segmentation people working for them. With what I term the standard issues, they creatively market component elements to get as much uptake across as wide a range as possible.

With all but a few rare deviations I'm going to stick to business strikes just to be obstinate.
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I think that if they are going to issue two sets they should make all the coins unique. By that I mean make the nickel silver as well, and make the cent copper alloy (i.e. same composition as the pre-zinc cents). There is no reason the nickel couldn't be silver. Heck it has been nearly 50 years since coins were silver anyway, so I don't see why we have to stick with tradition on that one coin but go silver on the others!
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I am with you saruma, people wouldn't mind paying extra money for all Silver coins and 90% Copper Penny.
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Of course there is no historical precedent for a silver nickel. With the exception of the war nickle which was a silver alloy
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I don't see why there needs to be a historical precedent on the nickel. I'd bet a large percentage of members on this board (myself included) weren't even alive the last time a circulation silver quarter or dime was minted. Silver proof sets (actually all proof sets) are only minted for collector demand, so why not give collectors and even more desirable set?

On the subject of precedent it is also worth pointing out that the State Quarter program was unprecedented (i.e. changing the reverse of a coin several times per year for many years), yet it was a huge hit and will probably continue indefinitely.
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Well said, Saruma.

The only drawback to having a silver five cent and a copper cent would be the required changes to cent and nickel albums to accommodate them.

Of course, album manufacturers have yet to accommodate the satin finish coins as a separate type, so I would not hold my breath on that one.
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On the subject of precedent it is also worth pointing out that the State Quarter program was unprecedented (i.e. changing the reverse of a coin several times per year for many years),

Only unprecedented in the US, other countries had done it before. In fact it was the Canadian program honoring it's provinces on the back of their 25 cent piece that presented the idea to the US.
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