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Pillar of the Community
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I think an ovaloid is actually 3-dimensional, as opposed to 2-dimensional. Perhaps the clash creates something more than we can see in the above image. Or, I could be wrong  Either way, egg- or pear- shaped. (warning: geometry!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovaloid (redirects to ellipsoid, but you get the picture) Also see: http://thesaurus.com/browse/ovaloid
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, thanks, and thanks as well for the geometry warning xshift. My point was this however:
Does the shape of a rotated clash warrant a special name to identify it? Is there a special word for a clashed 't' in rotation? If the person who named this thing can see the shape, is it unreasonable to think that no one else would be able to see that shape as well?
How else can we build on the pile of muck that covers and hides what should be obvious?
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Pillar of the Community
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Note the enlarged thinking capacity of one who can identify the need for such words versus that of the average follower who accepts these new words without question.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hopefully the namer wasn't going for deliberate obscurity - although you never know. They may have just been trying to make everyone below their perceived IQ level run for the nearest dictionary. Quote: Is there a special word for a clashed 't' in rotation? If there isn't one yet, there probably will be  I agree that "clashed G at neck" would have been much more user-friendly. I doubt they consider the general collecting masses, though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can we take nominations? Say T for tyrone?
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Pillar of the Community
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I also asked the question of another vammer.......who says that "ovaloids" have nothing whatsoever to do with rotation or clashing. If true, that will make me feel 'really great' about all that I have previously said about it. I am going to find out what the term 'really' refers to as soon as possible, but right now, I have the sneaking suspicion that somebody is messin' with me....... Gene.
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It's just a simple description of the shape of the feature the writer sees, zeewool. Nothing subtle, no undercurrent, no agenda, just someone whose skills tend more towards physical research than public exposition doing the best they can to talk about what they see. Not everyone combines both skills; talk to any theoretical physicist and you'll see what I mean. 
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I am not trying to take this into the realm of quantum physics, M-theory, parallel universes or time travel Dave. Neither Galileo or Archimedes, Hawking or Einstein are here to talk about coins, not that they would seem to be particularly adept to it anyway.  All I asked was what ovaloid is, and I got one answer here, and words of refutation without visual or quoted text from another vammer, and now this "It's just a simple description of the shape of the feature the writer sees" thing from you, so I am confused about what it is and what it actually looks like, as I did not see it in the photo shown above. At this point, my thoughts are that it is akin to the 'phantom E' where a big imagination rather than a loupe is required to see it.
Edited by zeewool 09/14/2010 5:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The picture we were looking at isn't an ovaloid example.. from what it sounds like, "ovaloid" was used to describe the shape of a certain type of die failure (multiple clashed dies). It's oval/egg shaped and raised from the surface.. looks kind of like an oval bubble.  Vamworld pic I'm not sure how long ago they named it this - I gave my VAM book to a friend I was hoping would catch the VAM fever, so usually need to rely on vamworld when I need to look something up.
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Thanks once again xhift.  I have seen this type of thing before, I am certain of its cause and am astounded that this is not pretty obvious to others as well. Look at other examples of this effect, they all have something in common besides the shape. Yes, there is a definite reason why these lumps are oblong in appearance. I could have explained it so that not only a 'theoretical physicist' could understand.  Unfortunately it still would have gone far over the head of the typical VAM 'expert' elsewhere (and maybe here as well). It remains a great mystery to those 'experts', along with denticle impressions, and other things that are either magical or caused by the gods in moods of anger.  (spelling edit)
Edited by zeewool 09/14/2010 6:01 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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And NO, those raised 'oval' (actually oblong) things have absolutely nothing to do with clashes.
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Valued Member
United States
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ovaloids are clashes which the result is a sunken die. there are no known "ovaloids" on non clashed morgans, and they are directly in the clashed path.
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Deja vu.......I understand the myth, and you are welcome to it.
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Valued Member
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what is your theory?... just curious
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