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zeewool, Thats correct except the crack continues on through the "E", the dot and onto the "P". twohawks, I will try and take the pics you want but I am not very good at it.  Thanks to all for there help so far.
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I'm at work now and the pictures look like this  I'll have to give it another look tonight when I get home. In the meantime Wornslick, look at the ear fill. The 14.2 has almost no ear fill. The crack described on the 14.2 page from the bonnet thru the hair to the neck is sometimes clearly visible and sometimes not at all. You should be able to confirm or eliminate the 14.2 from the published diagnostics for this die pair ... they are pretty dramatic. It's definitely not a VAM 15. The 15 has only two feathers between the eagle's right wing and leg (viewer's left). This one has three. My recommendation is to nail down that reverse first (forget everything else until you confirm which reverse you're looking at). Then hit the obverse and additional reverse PUPs. A closeup of the wing feather configuration would help immensely. Happy Friday Everybody!  I use periperal die cracks as the last resort when attributing 8TF Morgans.
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When you say "Ear Fill" do you mean that I cannot see the ear opening clearly? I can see the ear detail fine on this one.
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Also I can see the crack running from the Bonnet through the hair onto the base of the neck easily.
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Here's what is meant by earfill.  The blue line represents the normal ear fill. Significant polishing of the die has reduced the earfill on the 14.2 to the red line. If you see that crack, then you have a 14.2 (and a gorgeous one at that). Check the 14.2 page to confirm other diagnostics. 
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Yes, thats the way the ear fill looks, the one inside the red line.
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zeewool, I hear ya! 
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You may hear me slick, but I'm not so sure you understand what I am saying.
The cracks through those specific star points (and through the E, the dot, the P, the cap, the hair etc.) don't lie. No other 8TF variety has that same crackage. It is a lock. It is 14.2, although the controversy may continue, it won't change anything other than to cause you to doubt your own opinion.
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zeewool, I am just glad to know which one it is. I went to the VAM site and this coin has other things that make it a 14.2. The is a mark above the Letter "L' for one thing. I know it is a common VAM but I am very happy with the coin. I took my time and found a nice one, just like I was told to do here. Thanks, 
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on the early photos I could not make out the crack Zee has it 14.2 polished ear.
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Actually Russ, I couldn't make out any cracks on 'any' of the pictures, I was going on the strictly on the reverse being definitely A1L, and then the description of the coin as having cracks which narrowed it down to 14.2 or 14.15. That is why I gave the descriptions of those two crack patterns to slick.
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I realize that you are far more experienced at this sort of thing than I am Dave, so I am asking this for my own education: Quote: I'm at work now and the pictures look like this  How did you arrive at A1k from that? 
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