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Valued Member
Sweden
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Hello there! I've got 4 Morgan dollars, and I'm not sure how to spot the different VAMs. I thought some more cunning people could give me a hand! 1st:   2nd:   3rd:   4th:   and if you can give me some sort of whereabouts of the quality of each coin from these pictures.. I'd HIGHLY appreciate it! Results: 1st: 1901-O, VAM2nd: 1899-O, VAM3rd: 1889-O, VAM4th: 1882-S, VAMThanks for any help! Edited by Tomten
12/09/2010 07:34 am
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Valued Member
 Sweden
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If you look at the 3rd Morgan dollar, the whole edge seems to have had some Die-error on the left side. Right? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Love to help but I scratched my eye today, still need a full picture of the first and 3rd coins to know what year they are, and the 3rd is a rim Cud still need the date to place a possible VAM number for it.. |
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United States
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3rd pic finaly came through but not he first one, Keep leaning towards VAM 16 for the 89-0, but not sure, cant stare any longer... |
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Valued Member
Sweden
159 Posts |
The date of the 4th coin, 1882, looks a bit mutiliated with the middle parts of the 8's.
It's just to refresh the page and the images should pop up eventually.. maybe I should split the topic into two?
Edited by Tomten
12/09/2010 07:32 am
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Sweden
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At the tail of the eagle at the second coin, 1899, there's some die-error. Is this any VAM? |
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Tomten, just a friendly note. I don't think your going to get a whole lot of answers since your images are so ridiculously large. They're almost 3 MB a piece and people just aren't going to wait for them all to load. You can accomplish the same thing with 200K. See....  |
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Sweden
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Well.. Thanks for the note, and true enough. It's just that it's good to be able to zoom in and keep the good quality. I don't have any trouble loading the pictures, takes a few seconds only.
However, I will investigate in the matter, to find a perfect file-size with good zooming capabilities! Thanks!
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 WOW I was going to say something about the pic's size! And with a cable modem they where a bit slow and choppy every time a scroll. |
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Hi Tomten, I hope that you do not take this the wrong way, but I totally agree with Bobby about the size of your pictures, and to be perfectly open about it, I must admit that I complained to management about their size....It took ten minutes for me to open this thread because of these super size pictures....I tried to open this thread three times before, and my computer timed out, froze up, and I had to restart my computer all three times....I don't have time or enough interest to revisit this thread again after this time....I do understand why you chose to do this though, and probably might be a good thing for those people who have the time and patience to wait, and wait..... As far as 'are these coins VAMs'......yes, they are all vams, but I am not experienced enough to know which ones they are.....Hopefully, aladinslamp or twohawks will feel that the wait for you pictures to load will be worth a return visit, because those two guys can identify your coins (if anyone can). As far as the die error that you point out in coin #2, that is not a die error, that is where a foreign object hit the coin on that tail feather and caused a small portion of the metal on that particular feather to separate.....(pretty common effect, and it is referred to as Post Mint Damage or PMD). I doubt that the extra metal that you see around the rim of coin #3 (from the I in plurIbus all the way down to the 1 in the date) is really a Cud or even die related at all....I know what caused this, but I am not going to start WW-III in the process of explaining it. If either aladinslamp or twohawks have the time and inclination to return to this thread, they could probably say something intelligent about the 8s on coin #4..... Please get your pictures down to 200kb in the future. Aladinslamp (lastly, but most importantly to me) I sincerely hope that you and your eye are okay Gene.....Take care of those peepers buddy... |
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United States
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 There is no WWIII here Zee! All is well in this winter wonderland! And I hope in yours as well !   The 3 rd coin looks like a Vam-10 far date the 89 is set further away then the rest. as far as the Cud, most Cuds have to run into the denticles or be fairly large to be listed. as far as the break or crack I would need to see a better photo. When I scroll it is just choppy on this post. Sorry Edited by twohawks
12/09/2010 11:15 pm
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United States
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I did have to wonder about the WIDE DATES.........concerning what VAM it could be....I still have doubts, even for VAM 10. I cant see......but today I can see better....fine points or PUPS,,,,the rim Cuds are not extensive enough , but should be known to an EDS to those who have the updates, I do not... As I'm blind In one eye and can't see out of the other I rely on my trusty Dog CBU chilled blind uknow what...to tell me what the other /our eyes are seeing.....ask the proffesor on VAMWORLD he can tell you... and thanks Zee......in this world, I'll keep one eye out for you!! |
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Valued Member
Sweden
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Zeewool, I totally understand your behaviour. I'd probably do the same if I were in your situation, with a topic freezing the computer over and over again. No hard feelings. And as I posted above, maybe it was a stupid move to have all four coins in one topic. Especially with the filesizes, however I took no notice to it since my Internet can handle it without any problems at all. Please forgive me.
At the moment, I'm away from home so I don't have any access to my files or coins, which makes me unable to re-size the pictures. (Okay, might be doable from this laptop but I'm not going to take time to do that on my small vacation during the weekend.)
Let me tell you something... These coins belonged to my grandfather, along with 24000 other coins, mostly from Sweden (23000 Swedish, and around 1000 foreign). My grandfather, being senile and such, had these coins in plastic bags hidden allover his house, or just in small boxes in the attic or even under the floor.. We've tried to locate all the coins (and stamps) and we've brought them home to us. My father has sorted the 23000 Swedish coins and listed them in Excel. I've got the responsibility of the foreign coins (I'm much better at English and computers than he is). As I speak I only have a few countries left to look through. I've listed and sorted all coins in Excel and I've taken pictures of every single coin. Even the really worthless ones, due to the fact that pictures are needed if they're going to be sold (even for just a few dollars). This is very time-consuming and usually brings my level of patience down to a 11y old kid after have taken pictures of coins for 6 hours in a row. I'm trying to do this as fast and good as possible, which gives me about 10 seconds trying to determine the quality of a coin. (I'm always awfully too positive, about 1-2 levels, but since I know I'm always wrong I guess it's okay anyway)
All this makes me quite annoyed when I can't ID a coin at the end of the day and I'm sorry for not taking the time to consider the sizes. Hopefully you'll forgive me and help me out even in the future. :)
I'll be able to get new/resized images at Monday soonest. If I don't find a few hours to do it at this crude laptop with Paint or whatever this computer has. :)
Thanks for all the help so far. I hope your eye comes out fine. (not literally comes out :D )
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Valued Member
Sweden
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I don't want to come off as arrogant, I know that there are many people here that makes a living with coins. I'm not one of those though, I'm just a 19y old kid trying to help my dad sort everything.
What's PUPS, and what's an EDS?
I've been looking a bit at Vamworld, hard to navigate their site though. I should resize images and give it a go there too perhaps. Thanks for the tip.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Aladinslamp and I are not dealers we are both collector's. As far as vamming most find it over welming at first and second so you are not alone. PUP's "stands for pick up points" kind of like scars on a hand no single one is alike. EDS, MDS and LDS stand for "early die state, middle die state and late die state.
One other thing it will make it easier if you post 1 coin to a post with the date and mint mark and the word help in the heading. Some of us know different dates better then others.
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Valued Member
Sweden
159 Posts |
Okay. EDS, MDS, LDS, PUPs. Roger that!
Yeah I was thinking of posting 4 seperate topics. Dunno why I changed my mind and made one topic only. I can fix this on Monday though and save this topic at my computer and repost the topic in as 4 seperate topics. Decrease the quality to half at least and it should land at 1.3MB per picture. Thus being quite okay for one topic.
Do you really want to look at the two coins that are in quite bad shape? Maybe I should remove those two and just keep the top and bottom one?
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