2011 Brilliant Finish Uncirculated Mint Sets?

With the ridiculous price increases by the mint in 2011, my business is done with them. Double face value for quarters? No thank you.

At least now we should be assured that the mint sets will at least have high quality BS (nice pun). Hopefully they won't be so different as to create an entirely different class of coins. I know they won't in my mind!

Assuming the same dies are used, how much difference will "extra force " make.
We have always dealt with well struck unc's and worn dies resulting in lower grade unc's.

I don't disagree with you, I'm just throwing it out there.

In the end I guess we'll have to see how much nicer the mint set coins are.
Historically I'm not really expecting much. That is, complaints of low quality coins in mint and proof sets.
Maybe this is the mints way of upping their quality? That's the way I see it, as a good thing.

That has been the description of the mint sets for every year since 1968 to 2004. Back before the satin finish sets began in 2005 most collectors DID get their high end business strikes out of the mint sets because of the greater force striking and the smaller number of marks.

I never saw much sense in the roll subscriptions since the coins in the rolls are the exact same coins you can get in rolls from the bank at face value. High grade business strike non-satin coins from the 2005 - 2010 will probably go very high because one high grade business strikes are rare, and two so many people fell all over themselves loving the satin finish coins and putting those in their sets rather than business strikes that even fewer high grade business strikes were searched out than normal. If fact most of the high grade non-satin coins from these years are actually low end satin finish mint sets coins where the finish is no longer distinctive. (As the die wears the satin finish fades. Coins struck shortly before the dies are retired could pass for business strikes and the high pressure striking and lack of marks got them slabbed as high end business strikes.)

Quite true, however, most people cannot get BOTH mints from their bank......just one. So, this is a way to secure BOTH.

Though, I'm not going to be doing this with the ATB's for sure...way too expensive in the long run, to do that for me. Those are some mighty pricey two roll sets for 11 years--five times each year !
Hopefully I can just get my P & D biz. strikes from Mint Sets now with no more Satin Finish !

I too am very upset by the introduction of this new coin type. As far as I know and judging from my earlier sets (up through 2004) uncirculated mint sets were made up of coins pulled from circulation production. They were not specially struck for the sets. I could be wrong but that is my understanding. The satin finish coins were only one step short of being proofs, they only lacked that second strike. They were minted on special planchets using specially prepared die (both planchet and die are satin finish) at elevated forces and given special (but not individual) handling. These new coins will be generally but not individually distinguishable from true circulation strikes meaning that as a whole they are in a higher grading group but there will be no way to tell if an individual coin is a high grade business strike of an average uncirculated strike. This will totally lay waste to the value of high grade business strike coins. The mint has done an immeasurable disservice to the numismatic community. I didn't want them to get rid of the satin finish. I wanted them to go ahead and make them into satin proofs. Strike them twice and handle them individually to protect the finish until I get the coins. Then reintroduce the circulating strike set (which would have to come at the end of the year to avoid interfering with ATB and Presidential dollar introductions). This year start/year end set introduction should have made them both saleable.