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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Richesq1, there are tons of other places and people you can sell to maximize value. You can sell on this forum for instance when you meet the requirements and ebay is also another great place to sell directly to the collector. I've never sold to a dealer before and I probably never will given the other good options out there. Personally in my experience buying coins for the market value and waiting for the coin's value to appreciate isn't a good idea and I'm with he others who believe coins are not a good investment. although flipping a coin occasionally works if you get a killer deal or cherrypick a nice error, VAM, etc.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote: My 9 year old loves coins, and I freely buy him coins rather than useless toys (which he has plenty of, too). But the issue remains, if ever he wants to sell, where do you sell without getting ripped?
Exactly one of the many problems with thinking of coins as an way to make money or a profit. However, there are ways but for a 9 year old, not to many. Even for you to start trying to sell coins is sort of a time wasting, monitary loosing situation. Selling almost anything may or may not be like that. You could stick around here and try selling coins here but if no ne is buying, then what? You could try ebay or other on line auctions but again, if your not into those, you must join, get accounts there, get a paypal account and then face the lost in mail, no bidders, etc. You could try coin or hobby stores and really loose out with any profit. Coin shows too are a great place to buy but not sell unless you rent a table and try selling as if you were a dealer. The main thing is to really think of this as a hobby, not an investment. Think of coin collecting similar to those stickers kids collect. Just a real lot of fun.
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Valued Member
United States
104 Posts |
if just investing, wouldn't it make more sense to buy the golden eagles, or silver ones or coins like that? I think a coin collection will go up in value too, but the days of finding something for nothing in this hobby are over. Have you seen e-bay? I don't think I would sell my coins to a dealer either. They offer you 19-20 for a common Peace dollar, when I can get 24-30 selling myself on e-bay. I may do that. sell two or three common dates for one decent rarer date. but NOT until I learn alot more. ( and superdave has more time on his hands to help me pick one, ROFL)
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Again I think some have missed what we have here ..
Coin collecting is a hobby .. that over the long term can be a good investment.
My coin collection that I have been putting together for the past 40+ years, is worth much more that my fishing poles .. golf clubs and guns .. combined.
There are many of my better date/grade early Lincolns that I purchased from coin dealers 20 years ago, that I know I could take into most any coin dealer and get several times what I paid for them. Same goes for many of my type coins and of course common silver.
I am not sure what members are buying and then thinking they are getting ripped when they try to sell back to a dealer, so would be hard to answer that question.
I do buy and sell some stock .. and know that also can be very hard to pick winners.
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Valued Member
United States
155 Posts |
If I'm honest, I began to feverishly search for silver halves and Peace dollars based on the price of silver, and little knowledge. After I exhausted all options locally I turned to ebay only to find that many of the coins I wanted to bid on were already selling for way more than what I was willing to pay in order to protect any future profits. Based on my ebay experiences, I believe that there are plenty of people out there making decent profits selling coins. However, after the lust for silver subsided, I truly examined the coins I had found and thought back on how excited I was when I found one in a roll or snagged one at the flea market. That excitement, "the thrill of the hunt" is what kept me in the hobby. Plus my wife is okay with it :) she said, "you're collecting money? I can live with that!" hahaha Take care all.
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Valued Member
United States
287 Posts |
Started off as a hobby, but now I consider it more of an investment actually. Of course, I used to be more into the numismatic value, but that has since been mostly replaced by my appreciation of the bullion value of my collection. I like to find good deals on nice coins that are under spot, then attempt to liquidate some of my collection when I feel the spot price is high...not an exact science, but I've been right more than I am wrong...and I don't just mean in the last 10 years when the value has been going up up up, I'm talking about back in the late 80's and 90's too. I'm the kind of collector that sees beauty in a nice old worn common date coin almost as much as a MS-65 coin. I love the thought of where that old coin has been! I'd rather have a roll of worn Walking Liberty halves worth $200 today, than a slabbed gem walker that is worth $200+ today... that's just me!
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Valued Member
United States
287 Posts |
Ohh, I guess it is obvious by my post, but I don't really collect anything that is not gold or silver. I have a few things from when I was a kid, but I've never paid more than maybe $3 or so for a coin what wasn't a precious metal, and that was many years ago.
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Pillar of the Community
5464 Posts |
Sorry, I didn't bother reading all the above posts.
Back to the original question: Hobby vs investment
Hobby all the way for me!
I'm not a dealer, trader, seller, grader or investor. If I had to make a living out of this hobby, I would have starved long ago! The only real investment from where I sit is creating (trying to create) a legacy collection to "hopefully" be past on to family members.
However, your collections and family members?!?!?! We all know that's a whole other subject.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Some people seem to think you meant investment as a retirement fund type investment or making money. I get that isn't what you were saying and you really hit the nail on the head with your examples. There are countless activities and hobbies that people have where we spend money that we will never get any of it back. Go to the movies, go out to eat, go to a bar, go to a sports game ect are all activities where you get get 0 percent of your money back where you could have done the same activity in another way cheaper. While with coins you will at least get something back.
Honestly if you own something for 5 to 10 years or longer and it loses 50 or a 100 bucks in value who cares. That loss is less than it costs to see a movie each year for something you owned and enjoyed for a while. I also agree too with what you were saying about choices. If you put 500 into coins you enjoy instead of a few nights at the bar you have made a better investment in an enjoyable activity.
It seems that too often we get caught up with will I make money on this purchase or get all my money back and not enough focus on the enjoyment of owning it all those years. That doesn't mean to spend 5k on a 100 dollar coin, but for whatever reason coins seem to be the one thing that we expect to get all the money back or then some. If people calculate how much is spent on movies/resturants/bars/sporting events ect in a year for most people it would probably put coins into perspective and what a positive it is that something enjoyable can not only be enjoyed for years but at the end of the enjoyment you can get some of the price back and possibly even make money on some.
Edited by basebal21 12/03/2017 12:32 am
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Moderator
 United States
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This one was almost dormant seven years.  I guess it was a worthy bump. 
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Lol I didn't even notice the dates on the previous posts
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12477 Posts |
It is dormant no longer! Quote: Plus my wife is okay with it :) she said, "you're collecting money? I can live with that!" hahaha Worth remembering. 
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1314 Posts |
For myself, I enjoy making a few dollars on a coin sale. (Maybe because it is such a rare event.) And I don't usually buy with the idea of selling, but if a better example comes along, selling becomes a part of my upgrade process. Also, it is unusual to buy a collection without encountering duplicates. More important than the small profit is the affirmation that I know what I'm doing.
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Rest in Peace
United States
1559 Posts |
I have never really looked at any hobby as an investment until recently. When I became disabled in 2010 I became tired and depressed at sitting around doing nothing. After four years of it it became clear I needed to do something. I've loved to fish since child hood but packing all the gear is no longer an option so I got into flying quadcopters. That was fun for a minute, next thing I knew was the cost of replacing the motors, props, upgrading camera was getting out of control. This turned out yo be way more than my new fixed income could handle. Next was carving walking sticks and canes, very relaxing and not too much strain on the beat up body. That was until I went to purchase carving knives. A whopping $750 for a set of 6 of the essential knives. Needless to say, that didn't last long. I needed something that I can enjoy and maybe start out slow, something that kept its value just in case I grew tired of it. But what? Well, in Febuary f this year I inherited my grandfathers coin collection that my mother has held onto since my grandfather passed in 1979. My mother passed in Febuary and the coins became mine. After going through this collection I became hooked and realized that this is a hobby that, almost every dollar that I put into it stays with it! I don't have to keep replacing motors every other month like the quad, that was a money pit. This however, pretty much keeps what ever you put into I it. You can spend as little as you want or as much as you can afford. The quads I paid a couple of hundred dollars for will only bring about $25 if I'm lucky. My coin collection to me is priceless as it not only brings me joy, it also hold its value for the most part. It is also something that I share with my grandchildren. Which will probably be theirs someday. Unless I make a foolish purchase, I'm not throwing my money away. I feel that it is one of the only hobbies that retains it's value  I guess I should of added that I don't collect coins to profit on. I don't plan (at least right now) on selling any of the coins that I have purchased or inherited! However, I do see coin collecting as a hobby first and foremost, and as an investment as a bonus of the hobby, not as for a future profit.
Edited by Tootallious 12/03/2017 3:28 pm
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Valued Member
Taiwan
192 Posts |
I view coin collecting both as hobby and investment.
I am really enjoying this so it's definitely my favorite hobby.
On the other hand, I also view coin collecting as an investment -- not exactly as something that I believe would rise in value, but as things that will retain its value so even though I spend a lot of money on this I won't lose money (as long as all are good buys).
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