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1844 CC Liberty Seated With Motto! Yes With Motto

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I cant find any information on this coin! With motto " IN GOD WE TRUST" HELP! I have looked through books and books! I seen that in 1866 SEATED LIBERTY no motto $1,200,000
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because it doesn't exists
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Where did you see this item?

It is a fantasy item. There was no CC mint until 1870. Also, mottos were not added to any coins until 1866 on Seated coinage.
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I keep a roll of them in my Bently.
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i keep my roll next to my roll of MS70 aluminum pennies...
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I bought it at a pawn shop ! They sold it as a 1844 SEATED LIBERTY! After looking in books and pic's I seen it had a MOTTO like the 1853-1873! NO JOKE I HAVE IT IN HAND!
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Could the date been printed wrong? Carson City did not get their presses till 1869................... First coin stamped in 1870 for CC......................?
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Any chance of getting us a picture, front and back?
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Could the date been printed wrong?



like this on ebay right now for $1.00?:



1844-CC-Liberty-Seated-With-Motto!-Yes-With-Motto



Nope. I'm sure they minted it just the way they wanted it, except it was minted, most likely, by, the Chinese.



This "coin" was not minted by the US Mint and definitely not in Carson City.





Sorry to be one of the bearers of bad news. Your coin is fake.
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I bought it at a pawn shop !

Its only value is as a novelty. If you paid more than a couple dollars you should try to get your money back. It is a counterfeit and if the pawn shop dealer represented it as a genuine coin he defrauded you. If so, don't let him get away with it!
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Could the date been printed wrong?

Sorry, but there is zero chance of that happening and zero chance that your coin is genuine or even silver. You might as well have purchased a 1798 Trade dollar or an 1805 Bust Dollar- two other fantasy counterfeits with impossible dates.
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sorry to say but it is just a counterfeit coin that was minted with the wrong Reverse dies. the counterfeiters didn't know enough about coins to realize the motto, all they knew was the date is worth allot of money so they just used the motto reverse and didn't know it was wrong. If you purchased this coin you purchased a fake because there is no possible chance of it being authentic. This is one of the hardest parts of doing this, telling someone they either bought a counterfeit or telling them the coin in a basement slab is no where near the grade they purchased it at and no where near worth what they paid. The my father used to sit us in a circle and pass this coin around when we were kids and tell us how we would be able to retire when we got it is another one I hate to confront but it comes with the job of sharing the knowledge to further the hobby
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I hope you didn't pay very much for it and I hope the dealer wasn't trying to pull anything over on you.

But, it is possible that he had been taken advantage of, too. I would like to think that he would have at least tried to find the "value" before he purchased it. But, he may have just paid spot for it thinking it was silver.

Who knows. You need to go talk to him.
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Yes, your coin is fake as a three dollar bill and I hope you didn't pay a lot of money for it because I know that pawn shops do not take returns or give refunds. Did the dealer present the coin as a real dollar? If so, I'd be so angry. Pawn shop owners know better than that. All he would need to do is to look it up in a RedBook and he would know that the coin with that date, motto and mint mark is nonexistent.
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thecoinczar,
Wait a sec! You saying my $3.00 bill is a fake too? Dag Gon It!
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