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A coin goes into a #000 bubble mailer and is mailed inside the United States to someplace that is also within the United States. The envelope weighs less than an ounce. It's 7.75 inches long, 4.87 inches wide and less than .25 inches thick. No insurance or tracking. Postage takes the form of a stamp or stamps. How much should the postage cost?
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I mail these constantly. I have a box of 500.
Non rigid 1 ounce or less - 88C
Rigid 1 ounce or less - $1.22
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Dave: Now I'm totally confused! I've mailed hundreds myself, and since the last postal increase I've been sending them at .64 cents each. 99.9% have gone through successfully. But I got a message from a PO'd customer today who said it came through with $1.07 postage due. The 000 should receive the standard first class envelope rate and the coin adds rigidity which incurs a 20 cent surchage for a grand total of 64 cents....no?
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Yes. $1.71 if it is classified as a 1st Class "thick envelope". You can calculate this on the USPS website but that's what I've been paying. If it is rigid and over 1/4" thick, it gets "package" pricing. Non-rigid and under 1/4" can go at lower rates.
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And, just a side note. The Los Angeles area is a conglomerate of individual cities, each with it's own PO.
I have taken to one clerk in my town, .88
I take the exact same envelope with the exact same coin to one town over, $1.22. I ask the reason for this."this is a parcel." I go back to the other PO and they tell me they overcharged you. I've complained but it does no good.
My PO has one of those kPiosk's where you can do it yourself, ALWAYS 88C under 1 ounce unless I send a Morgan or multiple coins.
Now, less than 1 ounce in a regular size envelope marked "non-machinable", 64C.
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Yes. $1.71 if it is classified as a 1st Class "thick envelope".


Exactly what I have to pay to ship a 15-mL bottle of VC in one of these padded envelopes.
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Are you sending these out w/o delivery confirmation? My local P.O. requires them to be at least 3/4" thick in order to use delivery confirmation. This also insures they don't go through the machinery. Just curious.
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Are you sending these out w/o delivery confirmation? My local P.O. requires them to be at least 3/4" thick in order to use delivery confirmation.


No but local P.O.s vary. I buy postage online using PayPal Multi-Order Shipping for mailing items in bubble mailers. Delivery Confirmation is 19 cents and accepted on anything that goes as a thick envelope (over 1/4").
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I use them but usually send multiple coins. I don't think I ever sent anything for under $2.
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I have been wondering the same thing. That is exactly the size I use. I usually print a label with eBay/PayPal and tape it on. With tracking, it's usually less than $2.00. But I have also seen them shipped with standard first class postage.
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Here's the thing with me: 75% of the coins people win from me on ebay are SINGLE coins with a cost of less than $15.00. Whenever this happens, I toss the coin in a #000 mailer, slap a 64 cent stamp on it, and away it goes. I only bother with tracking or insurance or printing a label from PayPal if the total value is greater than $15.00. Either that is a correct course of action or I'm getting away with murder, because if you look at my DSRs I'm right at 100% for shipping charges, and that wouldn't be the case if all these shipments were showing up with postage due. My contention is that a #000 mailer becomes a PACKAGE only when the thickness exceeds a quarter inch. Until and unless that happens, it's a rigid envelope, and 64 cents is the correct postage. My local postmaster agrees. Unfortunately, once in a great while, the postmaster on the other end of the delivery doesn't see it this way and then I get in trouble.
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You are correct weerdsteev, maximum dimensions for a First Class letter are 6.125" x 11.5" x 0.25" and an allowable weight of 3.5 ounces. Anything less than those numbers and you can send a rigid object for 64 cents.
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I just finished addressing a #000 bubble mailer with a 64 cent stamp on it, complete with a coin inside of it, to the Postmaster for zip code 89122. Inside is a letter that basically asks "what, if anything is wrong with this?" and includes a self addressed, post-paid envelope for his/her reply.
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That's beautiful. I think we should all do this. That same envelope that costs you 64C Steve, is costing me $1.22 from the advice of the Postmaster to his clerks in Alhambra,Ca. 91801!
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Question: when sending out coins in a package and they ask what is inside or if I need to write down what is inside what do you tell them or write down? I don't feel comfortable telling them or writing down 'coins'.
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That same envelope that costs you 64C Steve, is costing me $1.22 from the advice of the Postmaster to his clerks in Alhambra,Ca. 91801!



I pay the higher rates here in Iowa also. The #000 mailers I use are over 1/4" thick empty. There's no way for me to get the lower rates because they're over 1/4" thick and rigid.

Best of luck Steve, you have a friendly local P.O. for sure!
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