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1983-D Nickel Weird Lettering On Back

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I am not going to speculate because I am always wrong...lol...but the Nickel appears to be in great shape but the lettering of the United States of America and the Building is doubled. I think it is really bad MD but what do you think? (ok I guess I did speculate...lol) Worth keeping?

Whats up with the "T and E" in the word STATES?
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Could this be deterioration or damage at the mint?
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 Posted 05/09/2011  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am unsure....parts of it look like MD but some of the letters look wrong. Maybe Die Deterioration...I am a novice.
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The 1983 pennies I've seen mostly have a distorted surface to begin with. Most are concave on the front which would lead to the lettering I would suspect but I too am a novice.... others....
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@Peaceman- Its a 83 Nickel. (I didn't know if you mispoke or didn't see it in the title) Its definitely not concave. I guess parts specifically talking about are:

Picture 1- The "T" and the "E"...the backs of the letters should go straight up and then have a Serif pointing back..
Pic 2- The "F" is exhibiting the same characteristics
Pic 3- The far right of the building shows what could be doubling? As well as the part to the left of the edge...
Pic 4- The "R" "I" "C" "A" are either MD or Doubled and they look pretty bad....

The coin front and back is in great condition except where the pictures show otherwise...
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A great deal of nickels show heavy Die Deterioration due to the face that cupro-nickel is a very hard composite metal, and the planchets tend to wear the dies out rapidly. And the Mint will use the dies until they basically fall apart. So, you will notice a lot of nickels have distorted details, which is a sign of Die Deterioration.
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This is classic Die Deterioration Doubling for a nickel.
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It's not a D.
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 Posted 05/10/2011  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@kenringold-Why do you say that? I am staring at the D on the obverse side...
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I think it's a reference to the PLURIDUS nickel that forum management thinks will disappear if they keep poofing posts. Thus, the pot stirring.
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So....this is MD and Die Deterioration
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I'm no expert either but I thought the split serifs in the first picture make it a real doubled die.
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I think it could have been doble struck. Was that coin gold?
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Not gold, just bad lighting.
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This does appear to be Die Deterioration Doubling. If you look at the I of AMERICA, you'll see that puffy, irregular doubling surrounds it. It's a classic look. But DDD can also appear on just one side of a letter.
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