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100 Cent Morgan?

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Hi all,

Are any of you familiar with this coin? If so what's the going rate for a coin in this condition?

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-1878-MORGAN...t_500wt_1156

Thanks
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never seen anything like it, I assume it's just a fantasy piece.
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This appears to be one of the replicas of this:
http://www.coins2.com/imgsearch/lib...METRIC-.html

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I am no expert on these pieces, but the reason I say it appears to be a replica is b/c of subtle differences such as the curvature of the mouth.
Also:

http://www.sell.com/24TPC8
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The Goloid metric dollars were pattern pieces and never approved for circulation. ebay has a listing a week for these all from sellers claiming they don't know what they are and hoping a gullible public will "gamble" that they are authentic. They are replicas produced in China. I would never buy one of these outside a genuine PCGS/NGC/ANACs slab.
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 Posted 05/12/2011  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ZERO chance that it is genuine
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ZERO chance that it is genuine


Oh, c'mon, be nice. 0.00001 chance.
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probably sticks to a magnet
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these are very highly counterfeited but it is an original design but this one doesn't look real at all so to answer your question about what its worth I would say about 100 cents as the coin says. This is what a real one looks like
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This coin pictured was sold in 2003 at a stacks auction and this is what the description said about it

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Name: 1878 pattern dollar. GOLOID METRIC.
Description: Goloid alloy (5.26% gold, 84.74 silver, 10.00 copper). Reeded edge. Metric weight system.
Obverse with a head of Liberty to left, Phrygian cap and agricultural flora atop her head.
Reverse with UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 100 CENTS, and a starry circle. A splendid gem
Proof with frosty motifs and mirrored fields that form a pleasing cameo contrast (though
this is not mentioned on the holder). Mainly brilliant silver with whispers of pale
champagne iridescence on both sides. An altogether pleasing coin that was deemed suitable
for inclusion in the Louis E. Eliasberg Collection, and a coin that will be a highlight in
the next collection it adorns.The goloid alloy consisted of 24 parts silver for every part
gold by weight, and several different varieties of pattern goloid dollars were struck
circa 1878-1880. The variety offered here is the "metric" weight variety; another
variety is known as the "English" variety, with the reverse of that issue bearing
the weights at the center in grains rather than grams (as offered in the present
specimen). From Auctions by Bowers and Merena, Inc.'s sale of the Louis E. Eliasberg,
Sr., Collection, May 1996, Lot 287; Earlier from the Chapman Brothers' sale of the' M.
A. Brown Collection, April 1897, Lot 64; to J. M. Clapp; Clapp Estate, 1942; to Louis E.
Eliasberg, Sr.
Price: $11,500 (2003-07-25)


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11K! I have one of those......

but mine is "rare and unusual" and does stick to a magnet.....
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All the other "US" listings are fakes also. Some sucker will come along and buy them too.
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I'm with Seatednut regarding the ebay dollar you presented. The price reveals that it is a copy as the going price for this type coin is in the hundreds! Be very careful when purchasing unslabbed coins on the Internet and you did right by checking wit the forum before purchasing.
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Another counterfeit is on the market right now.
I reported this, but it still going.
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But if this is a 100% genuine counterfeit, doesn't that make it still a real genuine fake?
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I sent mine to the "Black cabinet"
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I reported this, but it still going.


We'll see about that.

It'll be gone long before the auction ends.
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It's gone now.

Goloids are very commonly counterfeited. I have several in my collection. (Fakes that is. :-) )
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