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Norway
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 Posted 08/28/2011  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Litotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DVCollector, I thank you very much for your offer. I would indeed love to have bought my Nordic coins at Krause prices. However, I have already attained all fairly easy Norwegian coins and now tend to search for either very difficult ones - which I rarely find and even more rarely buy - or coins from other countries. There appears to be money to be made somewhere here, but I am not industrious enough to pursue such an endeavour only to make money. I am a collector, not a dealer. I have a couple of holes in the "achievable" section still but I feel disinclined to bother you with the details as they will most probably not surface anyway. And if they do, you should reap full profit yourself.

I am a little curious as to what you mean when you say "older". The misvaluations are much larger before 1920 than after. If you find anything in the "skilling", "marck" or "daler" section then jump on the chance. Just beware - do not confuse Norwegian coins with Danish ones. Your SIEG will help you there.
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 Posted 08/28/2011  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both, gentlemen, for your help. I have fallen in love with these Finnish coins and have decided to try to finish a full set from 1900-to date......its going to be hard here in Canada to do it but worth the challenge.
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 Posted 08/28/2011  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I feel disinclined to bother you with the details as they will most probably not surface anyway. And if they do, you should reap full profit yourself....I am a little curious as to what you mean when you say "older".
Litotes, I see what you mean--as most of the older Norway coins I see are more common or lower grades. There is actually not not enough selection from dealers here to collect scarcer Norway coins. So I have specialized in overdates, mostly prior to 1915 from Nordic countries--some scarcer coins. So far, I have not mistaken a coin from Norway with one from Denmark.

I suspect this is a common coin, but it's one of the nicer (old) coins I have from Norway:

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Finland
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 Posted 08/29/2011  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eurocoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 50 pennia coin, few ended internet auctions here in Finland (summertime):

http://www.huuto.net/kohteet/50-p-1865/184687642 (maybe this one is closest to your piece)
http://www.huuto.net/kohteet/50-pen...pl/185719054
http://www.huuto.net/kohteet/50-pen...aa/176072012
http://www.matinmarkka.com/epages/M...ies/553/6/59 (from dealer's site)

Here's also few Finnish coins related sites which may interest you (mostly in Finnish - use e.g. Google translator or ask me:)

http://www.kolikot.com/ (marks, euros, news)
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jm78/index.html (marks, varieties and older denominations)
http://www.pk-numismaatikot.fi/forum/index.php (coin forum, you can write in English also)
http://www.kolumbus.fi/terho.vainio.../kalliit.htm (the most rarest Finnish coins)
http://www.suomenrahapaja.fi/eng/ (Mint of Finland)
http://www.huuto.net/osasto/keraily...--markka/258 (marks in the internet auction - good place to check prices)

When you are loking at Krause listings also note that there are few circulating commems:

KM35 500 markkaa (Olympic games 1952, this coin is actually the first modern olympic coin in the world)
KM43 1000 markkaa (currency system centennial)
KM82 10 markkaa (European Union)
KM91 10 markkaa (Finnish presidency of the European Union)
+ all the 2 euro commems (1 or 2 per year since 2004)

And finally - one mistake in Krause years after years: KM66 doesn't depict polar bear, it's just normal brown bear (Ursus arctos).

I hope you enjoy with collecting Finnish coins, as Litotes said, there's nothing very hard or expensive ones in your 1900-date set.

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 Posted 08/29/2011  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Eurocoin, litotes and dvcollector....thank you all so much for the great information. As my collection of Finnish coins grows I will post pics of the most interesting ones.....I will probably sell the pre-1900 coins I come across though, as I don't want to expand too much too soon. Thanks again for all the information.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Euocoin, thank you for posting those links!
I had lost track of that one site on Finland varieties.I'm still looking for those!
And, I'm surprised at the price realized for the 1865 50p! I'll compare prices there to ebay for my coins.
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Norway
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 Posted 08/30/2011  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Litotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DVCollector, you have a very nice ½ skilling 1867 there. But as you expected, this is an easy coin. In fact the easiest coin with "skilling" on it - bar none. Even in this high grade it is not particularly difficult. Still, an EF should be worth about $40.

As for overdates, the market in Norway is very slow, for some reason. Little or no interest. I have bought a few overdates myself, giving about what I would expect to give for the same coin without the overdate. The Swedes are more interested here, but nothing at all like what you see on your side of the Atlantic.
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 Posted 08/30/2011  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks...I figured I did well for $20 on this coin. The strike and grade are pretty nice.
I agree--overdates on American coins are either expensive or impossible to find unattributed.
But dealers here do not look for overdates on coins from Europe, and I have found a few nice ones by looking carefully.
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Canada
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 Posted 08/30/2011  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse my ignorance but was an overdate? Is this like a date strike, where a coin is originally minted with a particular date and then the date is "struck over"?
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 Posted 08/30/2011  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An overdate occurs when the mint re-uses a die from a previous year. They add the new date to the die, and then strike coins.
Naturally, for it to be discovered as an overdate, some of the previous date must be visible. I'm sure there are many overdates that are simply too faint to identify.
Here are two confirmed examples: a 1875 2 Ã-re die from Sweden was re-used in 1876. You can see the 6/5.
The second is a really obvious 1890/1900 on a Peru half Dinero--a series with many common overdates.
This is the only overdate from Finland I'm aware of: 1866/5I haven't found one--yet.

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08/30/2011 7:14 pm
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Canada
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 Posted 08/30/2011  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, thank you. Learn something new everyday here.
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 Posted 09/10/2011  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone tell me if there is a known variety of the 1949 1 markka coin that has a die crack? I would love to post a pic but I have been trying to do so on here for 30 minutes and just getting frustrated because I cant seem to get a pic that fits.
The crack is almost definitely not PMD, and it runs on the left hand side of the obverse, through the line to the bottom of the lion's feet.

Thanks for any replies....
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 Posted 09/10/2011  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
....also picked up today a 1952 5 markka coin around EF-45.....catalogue says about 20 dollars....any deviation from the value in Finnish numismatics?
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 Posted 09/10/2011  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these coins brass/copper or iron? It makes a difference in value.
If you have trouble posting pics, try tinypic--it's what I use--very easy.
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Canada
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 Posted 09/10/2011  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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