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Bedrock of the Community
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They look much too clean for genuine gold coins.  to the CCF! |
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They look much too clean for genuine gold coins. WADR what is that supposed to mean? Why can't gold coins from 120-130 years old be clean? @kv2009 I would suggest that you start with checking the weight of the coins. Gold coins are very commonly copied/counterfeited. The weight is often the easiest place to start. Use a scale that is accurate to a tenth of a gram. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think they are real, they have just been cleaned.
Your best bet is to send them to ANACS for a quick third party grading and authentication.
Good luck!
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The weight for the 1893 ($10) is 17.09g
The 1899 ($10) is 16.69g
The 1900 ($20) is 33.52g
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Odd that all 3 are slightly overweight. Is your scale properly calibrated?
Although it is possible for coins to be slightly overweight, having a group of 3/3 seems odd to me.
10 Dollar Gold target weight 16.72 grams
20 Dollar Gold target weight 33.44 grams
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Tolerances were TIGHT on these coins (+/- .032 grams) and the planchets were individually weighed. The 1899 is barely within tolerance but the other two are heavy.
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Bedrock of the Community
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There is some distortion of the pictures - looks like the camera was slightly angled so I think that may be why one of our members said the one is fake?
They look real to me. And I also agree with BigSilver's observation. Calibrate and see what happens.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Gold is particularly difficult to analyze from photos only but I do see a few concerns. Both 10s have wonky denticls, but it's possible that it is only from the light angle.
I'm fairly certain the $20 is bad. The entire design elements of both the obverse and reverse are mushy and soft with some deeper details being particularly indistinct. Additionally, the detail lines that are next to the field do not show the district differentiation normally seen.
I agree with the suggestion that ANACS is a quick and easy way to confirm authenticity.
But I do understand Frogs immediate question of authenticity. Sometimes, after you've seen enough of a date and mint for a given type your first impression is very likely correct.
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07/16/2019 2:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Gut feeling from me is all are fake
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New Member
Malaysia
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Thanks for all of your replies. All of your concerns are very insightful and it's good to know all the potential red flags that surround these coins. I should've mentioned this before, these coins are confirmed to be solid gold. My dad is a jeweller and took these in as trade-ins for cash by customers (for it's gold value). However, we are unsure whether these are legit coins or decorative gold coins that were used as pendants, as it was kinda fashionable 50 years ago (placed in gold coin holders that enabled them to be looped onto necklaces).
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Pillar of the Community
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If they are solid gold (24k) then they are fake.
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New Member
Malaysia
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Oh sorry, what I mean't by solid gold is that they are indeed gold coins of around 90% gold purity (give or take). However, we do not know whether these are gold replicas mean't as decorative pieces or legit mint.
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Pillar of the Community
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US gold coins were counterfeited in mass numbers in the 60's and 70's from real gold to satisfy the demand of gold coins wanted by Middle East merchants at the time. Some of these counterfeit were well made and deceptive to the novice. I am not going to give an opinion from your photos if the coins are genuine or counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I should've mentioned this before, these coins are confirmed to be solid gold. Quote:
If they are solid gold (24k) then they are fake. Often when new people say "solid gold" or "solid silver", what they really mean is a solid metal alloy or "not gold or silver plated". |
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