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Question About 1909 S VDB Pennies

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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
As I recall, I've only ever heard of one person finding an S-VDB in the wild in my life (I am old).

I have heard of a few VDB finds over the years but it's rare.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
I grew up back when dinosaurs roamed, and fairly easily assembled most of a set of Lincoln Cents from circulation. Even then, the 1909-S VDB didn't exist in the wild. The 1909 VDB, however, could be found from time to time.

I have found a few 1909 no-VDB cents over the last few years, and one badly mangled 1909 VDB cull. I posted a possible Poor-1 1909-S on here from circulation a couple years back, but it was too far gone for positive identification.

IMHO, the only way a genuine circulating 1909-S VDB could exist would be from a stolen collection.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
Stolen collection, or, once in a while for publicity at a big coin show someone will release a 1909 S VDB to see if it gets found.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Found many VDBs back in the '50s but certainly not an SVDB. But agree that someone on this forum found the latter not that long ago.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
The United States has issued, probably, about 500 billion 1 cent coins. If the 1909S VDB were distributed randomly in the lot (which they are not, of course), your odds of finding one would be about 1 in a million. Given losses and the efforts of millions of collectors looking for one, even imagining that 1 in a 1000 are still truly in circulation would be very optimistic. At that ratio you would need to search 1 billion coins to find one. If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.

Low odds, I would say.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

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If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.

Ok I'll try it and let you know how I made out .
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 Posted 11/09/2019  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
@T-BOP, since it will take 1000 years, you better get on it right away!
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 Posted 11/09/2019  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
WOW,T-BOP is down grading from nickels to cents... Good luck on your search, keep us posted every decade...PLEASE...
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 Posted 11/12/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
I've found 3 or 4 VDBs in circulation, most recently about 20 years ago.
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 Posted 11/12/2019  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
In the 1950's not hard at all if you lived on the west coast. Today, extremely rare.
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 Posted 11/12/2019  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list

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The United States has issued, probably, about 500 billion 1 cent coins. If the 1909S VDB were distributed randomly in the lot (which they are not, of course), your odds of finding one would be about 1 in a million. Given losses and the efforts of millions of collectors looking for one, even imagining that 1 in a 1000 are still truly in circulation would be very optimistic. At that ratio you would need to search 1 billion coins to find one. If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.


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 Posted 11/12/2019  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Yep you could find one but you'll be dead when you do :)
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 Posted 11/18/2019  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddyknuckles to your friends list
I have found two 09 vdb in circulation in the last two years. From collection dumps also a nice 31d among others it happens that collections get recirculated for whatever reasons. Never prayed so hard for an s in my life as I did after finding my first vdb and realizing I had another in the same group of boxes. Haven't done cents lately been searching singles 5's an 10's for the cherries. Hope to be able to upload images again soon have a few items that I need opinions on. Picking up a hundred in cents and 1-2hundred in singles at some point today. Good luck to everyone on this non stop Easter egg hunt that keeps us on our toes.
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 Posted 11/18/2019  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list
I grew up in San Francisco in the 60s and 70s. My Grandfather was a collector. I assembled a mostly complete set in the late 60s with the exception of th 1909 S/vdb. My Grandfather told me that his last "found in pocket change" was in the early 50s. I've looked at over 2 million cents and I've never seen one. OTH I have found more than a few 1909 VDBs. In fact I can tell you for a fact that I have/had two rolls of them.
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 Posted 11/21/2019  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
There's a chance. A friend of mine just had their coins stolen and I'm sure the thief or the buyer didn't know all of what they had. I know some were uncirculated cc Morgans
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