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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nieuw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
How rare is it to find a 1909 S VDB or a 1909 VDB in the wild?
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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With a mintage of only 484,000 and everyone looking for them for the last 100+ years, it's really, really rare. Not impossible, but rare.

Oops, I missed that your question had two parts.

The 1909 VDB would be a lot easier. They minted 27,995,000 in Philadelphia so it's about 60 time more likely. Still rare, but it could happen.



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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, If I'm not mistaken one of our members recently found a 1909-VDB in change .
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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a 1909 VDB in the wild but never found a 1909 S VDB.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next to impossible.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I recall, I've only ever heard of one person finding an S-VDB in the wild in my life (I am old).

I have heard of a few VDB finds over the years but it's rare.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grew up back when dinosaurs roamed, and fairly easily assembled most of a set of Lincoln Cents from circulation. Even then, the 1909-S VDB didn't exist in the wild. The 1909 VDB, however, could be found from time to time.

I have found a few 1909 no-VDB cents over the last few years, and one badly mangled 1909 VDB cull. I posted a possible Poor-1 1909-S on here from circulation a couple years back, but it was too far gone for positive identification.

IMHO, the only way a genuine circulating 1909-S VDB could exist would be from a stolen collection.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stolen collection, or, once in a while for publicity at a big coin show someone will release a 1909 S VDB to see if it gets found.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found many VDBs back in the '50s but certainly not an SVDB. But agree that someone on this forum found the latter not that long ago.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The United States has issued, probably, about 500 billion 1 cent coins. If the 1909S VDB were distributed randomly in the lot (which they are not, of course), your odds of finding one would be about 1 in a million. Given losses and the efforts of millions of collectors looking for one, even imagining that 1 in a 1000 are still truly in circulation would be very optimistic. At that ratio you would need to search 1 billion coins to find one. If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.

Low odds, I would say.
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If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.

Ok I'll try it and let you know how I made out .
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@T-BOP, since it will take 1000 years, you better get on it right away!
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 Posted 11/09/2019  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW,T-BOP is down grading from nickels to cents... Good luck on your search, keep us posted every decade...PLEASE...
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 Posted 11/12/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've found 3 or 4 VDBs in circulation, most recently about 20 years ago.
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 Posted 11/12/2019  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the 1950's not hard at all if you lived on the west coast. Today, extremely rare.
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 Posted 11/12/2019  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The United States has issued, probably, about 500 billion 1 cent coins. If the 1909S VDB were distributed randomly in the lot (which they are not, of course), your odds of finding one would be about 1 in a million. Given losses and the efforts of millions of collectors looking for one, even imagining that 1 in a 1000 are still truly in circulation would be very optimistic. At that ratio you would need to search 1 billion coins to find one. If you could search a box a day, say 1 million per year, after 1000 years you would find one.


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