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Decontaminating Purchased Coins During Covid-19 Situation

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 Posted 08/13/2020  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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just leave them outside in a place where the Sun hits them.

So I need to get a box of cents,lay out all 2500 coins for a few hours. Then go outside and flip 2500 coins over and wait a few hours more,do I have that correct?
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 Posted 08/13/2020  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Currently on the CDC website Q&A:

Q: Am I at risk of COVID-19 from mail, packages or products?
A: There is still a lot that is unknown about COVID-19 and how it spreads. Coronaviruses are thought to be spread most often by respiratory droplets. Although the virus can survive for a short period on some surfaces, it is unlikely to be spread from domestic or international mail, products or packaging. However, it may be possible that people can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
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 Posted 08/14/2020  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list
From what I know from the New England Journal of medicine. A new analysis found that the virus can remain viable in the air for up to 3 hours, on copper for up to 4 hours, on cardboard up to 24 hours and on plastic and stainless steel up to 72 hours.
What's more, SARS-CoV-2 RNA was found on "a variety of surfaces" in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic people who were infected with COVID-19 on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, up to 17 days after the passengers disembarked. However, this was before disinfection procedures took place and "data cannot be used to determine whether transmission occurred from contaminated surfaces," according to the analysis. In other words, it's not clear if the viral particles on these surfaces could have infected people.

For me, I'd just bag and quarantine the package for a month to be as safe as could be and also not risk damaging the coins with temp changes or chemicals. or just stop buying coins in general until the threats been mitigated.

So, I think, if you wanted to be really safe, bag the package when you get it, and tie it off and stick it somewhere for like a month, and the virus should be inactive in 30 days and totally ineffective, then you can open it. I would not go crazy with cleaning solutions or high or low temps all of which could affect the surfaces of the coins. just time should really do the trick, and if you want to look at it early and be extra safe, wear gloves, goggles and a P100 respirator, and open it outside to inspect it and bag it outside and then bring it in to let it sit for a month in quarantine before opening it again.

it depends on how much worry and risk you have with this virus really. easiest and safest solution is to stop buying coins until you are safe from it and not take any risk at all.

This is going to be a concern for a good while, the rest of this year, probably next year also, I don't think we can all really avoid it completely the way it's going and there's just as much risk of the virus coming from a coin you bought off ebay as it is from a can of lysol or a package of masks or the box it comes in that you bought off Amazon at the end of the day. it only really matters how much risk you deem acceptable for what you want.
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 Posted 08/14/2020  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list
The local library (California) has a sign which reads that they leave returned books alone for 96 hours before checking them in.

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 Posted 08/14/2020  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
That is interesting. Have they extended the due dates accordingly?

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 Posted 08/15/2020  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
At the risk of sounding insensitive or callous, infection from coins received in the mail is not a likely risk. If you are worried about this perhaps it would be best to just not buy anything for awhile.
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 Posted 08/16/2020  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
As stated above , the risk of covid from coins/packages books is so small that's it's practically nil (I'm not an disease specialist so take the opinion as just my own google searches and articles read). The only documented case that I found of getting covid from objects was of a lady in church that stayed for at least 2 hours reading, praying and singing. Another church member sat in the same place next service and developed covid. There have been no documented cases of getting covid from an item mailed or picked up at a supermarket or store. In another article written by a microbiologist one needs both a large exposure and a long term exposure to actually get covid. Walking without a mask outside and passing by someone that has covid will likely not give you covid. Being inside a restaurant where the person in another table has covid and being next to that person for an hour or more you may pick up enough viral load to get.

Now there have also been many cases in which people in the same household have been together for hours and one has covid and 50% of the faamily members don't get it. I have a personal friend that he got it and so did his son but his sons girlfriend, his wife and daughter didn't get it. No precautions were taken as he didn't know he had it. So there is probably some immunity already from exposure to other sars type virus.

What my long winded post is trying to say, is that the probability of getting covid from things is minuscule to none. So just enjoy your coins.
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 Posted 08/16/2020  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
agree with the 2 posts above
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 Posted 08/19/2020  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
I handle cash/coins every day. I don't really take much precaution because I'm healthy and try to keep a strong immune system through diet, exercise and vitamin supplements. Already had the virus months ago, like many, and had mild cold-like symptoms.
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 Posted 08/19/2020  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Interesting post, @fistfull.

I have been back at a retail job 3 days a week since May. Masks are required in the store, but as you say, there is some exchange of cash (much more by credit card where I can avoid contact). Nonetheless, it is a significant direct exposure to the public. My only risk factor is age, but I try to stay attuned, as my wife has many risk factors.

On mail, we have not taken any unusual precuations at home. As pointed out by others upthread, there is unlikely to be any risk from any object in the mail, as it has probably aged out of contagiousness.
On the other hand, if your mailcarrier is infected and doesn't know it, this is the main risk.

We open our mail, then wash our hands. SO far, so good. Sample of 2.
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We open our mail, then wash our hands. SO far, so good. Sample of 2.


Wash your hands, wear a mask, stand two metres apart.
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 Posted 08/20/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Some officials are saying its so dangerous we dare not use voting booths, and at the same time are agreeing with others that its safe to go get coffee at Starbucks. So do what makes YOU comfortable.

My own personal experience: I personally know of one elderly person with a preexisting lung condition who died from it. This seems to be the case - elderly and already inflicted.

My brother (54) had it, looked online and found allegedly mega (!) doses of vitamin C kill it. He found this true for him. Neither his wife or three children (6-18) never got it from him despite them always being together.

My son-in-law (26) got it, got over it with prescription meds, and none of his family (wife and two kids) got it. Neither did the rest of the family-run Ranch of 14 people who are constantly around him (even in close quarters).

I am thinking the data shows our nationwide actions to prevent this virus have proven to be a case of society being safe rather than sorry .

Do what makes YOU comfortable. Acetone can be used as an antiseptic and is typically used for getting rid of surface contamination on coins anyway. It won't harm your coin. The only precaution I have ever heard is to not use it on copper in direct sunlight or it may impart a pinkish tone.

I have never tried the sunlight-copper-acetone thing. Just passing it on as info.
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 Posted 08/22/2020  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Delawarefirst to your friends list
Covid-19 lives for variable periods of time, depending on the material surface. The main problem is the durability of the virus in dampness, for example in mucus from a sneeze. If packages of coins are allowed to stand for some time, any virus on or in the package will be killed. Search "How long does Covid-19 live on a dry surface" for more information. By the time the mail arrives, the contents should be OK to handle. Various hands have been in contact with the outside of the package, so wash your hands before removing the wrapper, and wait a few days before opening if you are worried. Hand washing and getting out of the habit of touching your face are the best ways to avoid "touch-transmission". The mask is to protect other people from your sneezes.
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This thread seems to be mostly about receiving mail. What is the info on buying boxes of coins (cents) from the bank? Do I need to worry, and if so how much?
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This thread seems to be mostly about receiving mail. What is the info on buying boxes of coins (cents) from the bank? Do I need to worry, and if so how much?
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