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Pillar of the Community
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The coin appears to be a slider 58 to 62. Put me in the 58 group.
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Bedrock of the Community
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You would hardly think they were the same coin, though clearly they are.
Edited by Coinfrog
11/26/2021 09:25 am
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Rest in Peace
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Out at the end of the limb - MS61...
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Bedrock of the Community
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the sellers photos appear to be manipulated to hide the flaws. there is only one reason to do that. I'm going with AU58 however very concerned about this area as the hairlines cross over the devices and number of them as well as all in the same direction could indicate some sort of wiping or cleaning. it would not be die polish lines. if you paid Red Book for an MS coin and can return this coin I would seriously consider that especially considering you bought the coin based on the photos presented which are not a representation of the actual coin.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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As you can see from the educated opinions of the people here, there is no legitimate "right grade" when it comes to slabbed coins. The companies themselves will tell you grading is an art, not a science. There is nothing scientific or verifiable they use in grading coins. It is the opinion of experienced graders only. And...the grade of the same coin can change! This same coin broken out and resubmitted even to the same company is never guaranteed the same grade again. To make it clear, notice I have not hurled any insults at the companies or anyone else. I also have not said anything negative if a person enjoys collecting slabbed coins - hobbies are about FUN and how we find that fun. I am relaying the facts of the system to help better educate people into making wise choices when they enjoy collecting slabbed coins. Too many people not understanding the reality lose too much money over these companies. http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242http://goccf.com/t/130186This is why CCF encourages people to buy the coin and not the slab. Edited by Earle42
11/26/2021 10:56 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Believe it or not I'm actually pretty happy with the coin (although I knew the abrasions would elicit controversy, which is why I posted it). It's quite hard to find such a solid strike on post-1921 Peace dollars. This one is stamped out very nicely, I think. I usually find really mushy details, especially on the reverse. I also don't see any wear, though I do suspect it has spent time in a casino. It will sell easily using un-doctored photos. But it is indeed troubling that a respected auction house would use those clearly "enhanced" photos. Edited by pristine2
11/26/2021 12:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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When I look at the true view photos, the grade looks like a MS64/65. What got me down to a 58 are the marks on the neck and chin and no luster on the OP photos. The True View photos shows possible rub on the tip of the eagle's wing. I would not want to own the coin if it graded higher than 63.
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Pillar of the Community
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And here she is ...  |
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Pillar of the Community
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The True View photos are glamor shots and the photos most likely made the coin sell for strong MS62 money at auction. It is a nice coin for grade. The glamor photos maximize the revenue for the auction house.
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Pillar of the Community
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Aww I was right with my first guess! Oh well, just proves to follow your initial instinct.
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Bedrock of the Community
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A wonderful coin to own. My guess was just lucky but good for you.
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Bedrock of the Community
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You said you paid full Red Book for this - how much did you actually pay? |
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by pristine2
11/26/2021 8:20 pm
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I still think she's a MS61 in my eyes, but having it in a holder at a point higher helps when selling it, I didn't think they'd hold her back in AU territory. It's the key date and not an easy coin to find overall especially in MS condition, it shouldn't be too hard of a sell over the holidays.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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