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1844 Half Eagle In NGC Slab: Grade Opinions And Comments Please!

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 Posted 01/23/2025  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TinyRetreat to your friends list
50-58 ... MS strike but the dings bring it down ... if I know PCGS
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 Posted 01/23/2025  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
I see no wear but many scuffs, MS 61 to me.
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 Posted 01/23/2025  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
AU58 is what I'm calling it. NGC might have pushed it to 60/61. I'm still at 58 due to luster loss in the fields.
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 Posted 01/23/2025  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list
First thought was AU-58
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 Posted 01/23/2025  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Nice AU-58
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 Posted 01/24/2025  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
This coin has significant luster loss in the fields which would suggest an AU-58 grade to me. However, the high points don't show any visible wear or the color change I'd expect if the coin circulated. The strike is very strong and there are many small (but no large) contact marks. NGC settled on a grade of MS-61.

BH1964, the obverse line is pretty straight. I'd suspect it represents a die scratch rather than a crack.

Thanks for your comments!
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 Posted 01/24/2025  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
MS61 sounds like a market correct grade for that piece, it's a nice coin.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list
MS - mint state - should mean as clean as first minted.
That coin has so many bumps and hits, in my opinion, it's mid-AU.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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That coin has so many bumps and hits, in my opinion, it's mid-AU.

Bumps and hits don't make a mint state coin AU, only wear can do that.
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 Posted 01/25/2025  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i don't get the comments that the coin is MS but the hits would downgrade the coin to AU. hits/marks etc. would not override that the fact that the coin is still MS. its either uncirculated or not. there is not apparent wear on the coin so the coin must fall in the 60+ range. it would lower the MS grade and MS61 is correct for this one.
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 Posted 01/26/2025  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
hasn't 48 hours past yet.....?
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 Posted 01/27/2025  07:49 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
A picture of the slab was not posted. The OP posted later in this thread that NGC graded it MS61.
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 Posted 01/27/2025  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Rubbing on the high points I think would keep this one out of the MS category.
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 Posted 01/27/2025  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo48 to your friends list
I am thinking an AU grade. I don't know how the grading service will consider the small dings/scratches as a potential excuse to downgrade to XF. Nice coin.
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 Posted 04/09/2026  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Thought I'd add a follow-up to this post.
Here is an 1844 half eagle from Heritage, graded NGC MS-64. It has the identical die scratch between stars 2 & 3 as my coin.

It also shows the earlobe punch like my coin; I see this is not a constant feature for 1844 half eagles since many examples on Heritage don't have it. I'm aware of two other Liberty Half Eagle dates that show similar punch marks: the 1851-C (I have one!) and the 1876-S (still looking). I don't know why these punch marks are present on these coins. Anyone have any informed input? Just wondering!

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