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I have been noticing when you Aussies grade coins sometimes you will say.. gEF or something to that effect.
What does the little 'g' stand for?
I would presume 'good' but I'm not sure.
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I have been noticing when you Aussies grade coins sometimes you will say.. gEF or something to that effect.
What does the little 'g' stand for?
I would presume 'good' but I'm not sure.
Thanks.


We grade using the small "a" and "g"
a= about
g= good

For example for a grade of Very Fine you can turn that into 3 stages , aVF, VF, gVF.
This can be used in all the grades.
good,Fine, Very Fine, Extra Fine, About Uncirculated.

When we get to the Uncirculated coins we grade them as unc, Choice unc, Briliant unc and FDC.

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I would be more inclined to use Gem UNC for predecimal coins and Brilliant UNC for decimal coins from mint sets but that is a personal thing.

I suppose it can loosely translate to the sheldon system aVF:VF20, VF:VF25-30 & gVF:35. There are obviously varying degrees within each adjectival grade, where the sheldon system denotes it with a number you will tend to see the use of another adjective such as about or good in Australia.

In reality an Aussie VF will be much better than a coin grade VF in sheldon terms.

A common thing that I hear/see all the time if the use of almost instead of about. Personally I prefer about.
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 Posted 12/14/2012  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think all the confusion comes from people wanting to change things. 30 or 40 years ago it was almost unc,extremely fine, and brilliant uncirculated. Now it seems to be about unc, extra fine and choice uncirculated. Us old fogies will stick to the terms we were brought up with. But it's personal preference and either way is correct. All part of this fascinating hobby.
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i took it to be a variance in grade between the 2 sides, a gvf I take to be in good in the obverse and vf on the reverse, but maybe that should be g.vf, to distinguish between the 2 sides?
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I doubt you would ever get a coin with such a large discrepancy between sides. The difference between G and VF are huge even between G and F. That amount of difference would almost certainly have been caused by artificial wear. Where I have seen split grades such as the reverse aUNC and obverse UNC I have seen them in the format of aUNC/UNC or aUNC-UNC.
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 Posted 12/18/2012  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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i took it to be a variance in grade between the 2 sides, a gvf I take to be in good in the obverse and vf on the reverse, but maybe that should be g.vf, to distinguish between the 2 sides?

Here's where Capital Letters come in handy: "good Very Fine", that is, better than VF but not as good as EF, is written "gVF". Good/Very Fine, where one side is Good and the other is Very Fine, would be written G/VF.

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I doubt you would ever get a coin with such a large discrepancy between sides. The difference between G and VF are huge even between G and F. That amount of difference would almost certainly have been caused by artificial wear.

Yes, I wouldn't have said it were possible to get a G/VF coin under normal circumstances. It could be caused by adverse storage or environmental conditions, where one side was exposed to something nasty (such as a fire) with the other side protected.
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I notice that if American coins have different grades obverse / reverse, that the lower graded side is that adopted for the coin.
Australian practice is to grade each side, IF there is a difference in grade, and describe the coin grade wise, as such.

Foe example, a coin could be graded 'VF / gVF', which means the obverse grades Very Fine, and the reverse grades good Very fine.
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 Posted 12/18/2012  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keldaw2222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is this one worthy of a grading please .. ,, kel ,,

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also ,would it be ok to use a little bit of acetone to clean it up a bit or better to leave it alone .. ,, kel ,,
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should these be cleaned or not for grading purposes .. ,, kel ,,

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thank you for your help
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these 2 are the follow up of the one above .. ,, kel ,,

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 Posted 12/18/2012  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For grading do you mean sending to PCGS or NGC?

Acetone will not have any negative effects on the coins. As long as you dont rub the acetone, just bathe the coins in it then it should be fine. Its not considered a form of inproper cleaning.

Your 54 florin looks nice but they are very common grades similar to what you have.
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yea matt , not for big dollars or caseing just for mucking around with them and see what happens , I have never used ACETONE before and I just would like to try it , I bought a bottle of it at the chemist today ... ,, kel ,,
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