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 Posted 07/25/2017  1:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have given up on current dollar coins long ago. The edge lettering is a deal breaker for me. The date and MM belong on the obverse or reverse of the coins, not on the edge. And the multiple yearly designs was also a turn-off. There really wasn't a good reason to remove the date and MM from the Sac dollars IMO. I do like the idea of using dollar coins but I am not going to get into that can of worms.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no fan of the date/MM on the edge either. There are already too many other things cluttering the design of every coin already -- "Liberty", "E Pluribus Unum", "In God We Trust" -- none of them provide the kind of identification that belongs on the face. The annual design identifies the year, but that's it.

Personally, I like the annual designs. What I don't like is how they tone so quickly. They did a good thing by choosing a composition to distinguish from the clad coins (like they should have done with the SBA), but they get so ugly so fast.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are just scratching the surface. I'm old school. The vast majority of the produce coming out of the United States Mint today are embarrassing to me as an American! I've seen better design and engraving coming out of third world countries. I hope this post makes Mr. Motl's, (Acting Principal Deputy Director U. S. Mint) Monday morning's briefing highlights!
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 Posted 07/25/2017  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint can only produce what Congress authorizes them to produce and some design committee approves.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got fed up for much more petty reasons, yea edge on dates stink, fumbling fathers and Indians aren't inspiring but the REAL reason: Littleton folders didn't have a P & D hole, had to buy two!...then, couldn't get the Philly mints here in Midwest. At first I combined P & D mints but still didn't have hardly any NIFC's, then got rid of the rest, none overAU-58's. Have nicer MS and PF in type set?!!
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 Posted 07/25/2017  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well than Congress should be held accountable . Modern Dollars are just another way for the mint to profit from new collectors . You don't even see any Presidential dollar coins in circulation and commerce transactions .
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 Posted 07/25/2017  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The golden dollars are a joke. How many do they have stored away in warehouses?
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 Posted 07/25/2017  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only collect from circulation and proof sets (no mint sets) and I put my coins in Dansco albums.

The dollar coin not circulating means I only ever see them in proof sets.

The dollar coin having edge lettering means I do not need to collect by date and mint mark (cannot differentiate them in the album).

Combine those two things and you now know why I only have a date set album being filled with proofs.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The golden dollars are a joke. How many do they have stored away in warehouses?
Plenty.

Stop printing the one dollar note and these will circulate.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Stop printing the one dollar note and these will circulate
Exactly. Here in Australia, we've had only $1 coins since 1984 (and $2 since 1988). Small denomination notes were wearing out too quickly and had to be removed from circulation, so the switch to coins happened.

No real dramas except that the $1 coin is larger than the $2 coin, which is a bit daft IMHO.

Most younger people would not even recognize the $1 & $2 notes if they saw them.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No real dramas except that the $1 coin is larger than the $2 coin, which is a bit daft IMHO.
I have wondered about that. Noticed it when trout sent me some Aussie mint sets last year.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add owatchman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the presidential and SAC tokens, er, coins, are a flawed design. Like USSID18 (nice handle, by the way), I think most of the coins coming out of the mint are not inspiring. The State and ATB Quarters are really the only exception, IMO. But other countries' mints are really doing the the same now too. A lot just pump out schlock.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But other countries' mints are really doing the the same now too. A lot just pump out schlock
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 Posted 07/25/2017  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the Presidential dollars were uninspiring, not sad they are done. I like the Native American dollars better, especially the reverse change every year (one per year is enough). Because of some idiot's stupid decision to put the date and mintmark on the edge, it is the only way to tell which year it is. I bought the coin and currency set last year. The literature says it's minted in San Francisco with an 'S' mintmark. Unless I destroy the packaging, I will never know for sure. I cannot see the edge of the coin through the packaging no matter which angle I try. Edge lettering is a total failure.
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 Posted 07/25/2017  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crazyglue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I never could get into any dollar coins. Not even Morgan.
But especially not the Presidential and SAC. I can't decide which is worse. The terrible Presidential coins that look like something you would get as a gas station collectible or the much better SAC dollars with the terrible edge lettering. I can respect Ikes and Peace dollars.

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 Posted 07/25/2017  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You guys are just scratching the surface. I'm old school. The vast majority of the produce coming out of the United States Mint today are embarrassing to me as an American! I've seen better design and engraving coming out of third world countries. I hope this post makes Mr. Motl's, (Acting Principal Deputy Director U. S. Mint) Monday morning's briefing highlights!


I am in total agreement. Compare our old designs to the majority-junk designs they make nowadays and its not hard to see why the older series are so popular with collectors. There is so little talent in designs nowadays when compared to the old masters, and it should not be this way.

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