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Identify The Problem With The Problem Coin Part 4

 
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 Posted 04/29/2018  06:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This sld has 1 problem that prevented it from grading straight. Who can identify it?

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 Posted 04/29/2018  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know that I am not very good at these, but yikes, I don't even have a guess on this one. I will sit on the sidelines and try to learn from others.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/29/2018  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a repaired area in the right field?
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 Posted 04/29/2018  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Old cleaning?
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 Posted 04/29/2018  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was gonna say either looks like it was cleaned or looks too good a condition? It's still very detailed for a coin that old.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or it was toned artificially. Are we under the assumption it's real?
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 Posted 04/29/2018  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This dollar has a great strike and would fit handsomely in my 7070. It looks MS to me so it must be cleaned, questionable color or possibly rim filings.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it graffiti in the field on the right?
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 Posted 04/29/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either cleaned or repaired, not sure.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cableguy815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The pics are low resolution so it's kind of hard to see the details. The lighting is also dark and it's hard to see what's going on in the picture so I enhanced things. It's a little easier to see the odd tone/coloration in these two pictures:




As other's have said, I definitely agree that there is something going on in the right field on the obverse. To my eye, the detail on the eagle side is stronger than on the obverse. It almost looks like the obverse was lightly whizzed.

The other possibility is it could have just been cleaned and artificially toned.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Must be genuine if PCGS holdered it. That's one detailed coin I would love to have! I'd have to guess questionable color.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tooled right obverse field is my only guess. It's a beautiful coin none the less.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your image names gave it away, but that's cheating. I was going to guess filed rims, because I couldn't see anything else. The right field did look suspicious as a repair but not suspicious enough for me.
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 Posted 04/29/2018  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking at cableguy815's images, I revise my opinion to Artificial Toning.
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