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Comparing Two 1796 Dollars

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I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that when choosing a coin to be "the coin" in a collection, the one choosing it must like it. This being said, I am curious as to what your personal preference is between there two coins, both PCGS EF(45).

Coin #1 (My coin)

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Coin #2 (Someone else's coin)


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Mixed thoughts, but I lean towards #2 due the the stronger strike. Maybe #2 was "cleaned" in the past, but obviously it straight graded. I'm not happy about the hits under the chin in the field and on the neck, but apparently that helped limit the grade to XF45.

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I like the color and wear of your coin much better than the other example, but I am having a hard time getting past the large lump variety because of the lighter color on the metal lump. On most of the other large lump coins that I looked at the lump blends in with the toning.
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Mixed thoughts, but I lean towards #2 due the the stronger strike. Maybe #2 was "cleaned" in the past, but obviously it straight graded. I'm not happy about the hits under the chin in the field and on the neck, but apparently that helped limit the grade to XF45.

Exactly my thoughts.
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What causes the 'lump' on coin 1 reverse, between the I and C of AMERICA? It apparently is not considered damage if the coin straight graded.

I prefer the surfaces on coin 2 although the obverse hits already noted are quite distracting in their prominent placement.
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Gorgeous coins both nonetheless!

Would dollars like these be found circulating all throughout the 16 states that made up the US back in 1796 or primarily in business/city centers and ports?
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I prefer the strike of coin #2, but the surface preservation of coin #1. Number of obverse hits and scratches on coin #2 in main focal points that are distracting for me.
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I lean toward #1, but both are just gorgeous.
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What causes the 'lump' on coin 1 reverse, between the I and C of AMERICA? It apparently is not considered damage if the coin straight graded.


The lump was most likely caused by a deteriorating die where a piece of the die fell out. The lump size changes on different examples depending on the die state. The OP example is in the later die state with the largest lump size.
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I would lean towards coin #1
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#2 more in the grade coin .
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Both coins are very nice but I am leaning more towards #2
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I prefer #2, I like coins with that darker on the outside, lighter on the inside look. #1 is overall too dark for my liking, just IMHO.
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Both beautiful, valuable coins, much better than my type example which grades VF35. IMO the sharper strike and stronger detail on #2 more than compensate for the contact marks. I like the color a little more, too.

Hey, I'd trade my 1797 10X6 Stars PCGS35 example for either!
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Both nice coins, but the lump bothers me. However, if they both graded straight then I pick #1.
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If grade is the same, it comes down to eye appeal.
You would need to personally inspect both, if that is possible.

If not, best to go with the majority opinion of this thread.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Start a score sheet, and add your opinion to one side or the other.
Your vote is the veto vote.
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