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For the most part pricing and values of U.S. coinage make sense. When it comes to dimes though, it seems all that goes out the window. Please enlighten me why a coin minted in numbers of a couple hundred thousand ( for example a 1916D Mercury dime) will bring FAR more than another dime minted in quantities of only a few thousand ( say an 1867 liberty Seated dime). Even within a specific "type" of dime some with higher mint ages will bring noticeably more than ones with much lower mintage numbers. You don't see this nearly as much in other coins as you do dimes.....what gives?
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One word, demand. Being rare is only part of the equation. A lot more people collect Mercury dimes than Seated dimes.
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It'd be a scary world if rarity equaled value. Imagine painting a picture; now imagine trying to sell that picture as a one of kind (the ultimate in low mintage). The rarity is there but the value is not if it is my painting.
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Quote:
A lot more people collect Mercury dimes than Seated dimes.


This.
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There were just 1000 3 cent silver pieces minted in 1872, but it's not much more expensive than 1866 which had 22,000 minted, and it's cheaper than a 1909-S VDB or a 1916-D dime in comparable condition. Very few people collect the series (partly because the low mintage makes it prohibitive), and just get a type specimen from a more common date, so it only goes so high. Lots of people collect Mercury dimes as a series and everybody collects Lincoln cents.
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Please enlighten me why a coin minted in numbers of a couple hundred thousand ( for example a 1916D Mercury dime) will bring FAR more than another dime minted in quantities of only a few thousand ( say an 1867 liberty Seated dime).

For every collector who wants that 1867 dime, there are several hundred collectors that want the 1916-D.
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Although if you want to get down to brass tacks, I think the 1916-D, like the 1909-S VDB, is overpriced in low grades.
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that depends entirely on what pricing information is used. the RedBook lists the 1916-D dime at a much higher price than a comparable 1867 dime in all grades, however, in terms of actual market value, I'm willing to bet that the two are darn close from AG to low VF. for instance, the RedBook lists the 1916-D at $900 in Gd. I'm willing to bet I could buy one for closer to $500. the RedBook lists the 1867 in Gd at $400. two words... good luck
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Don't think you can get a problem free G4 1916 d for $400. Slabbed G4's go for a few hundred more than that. Maybe you can get a deal getting an unslabbed one, or a damaged coin. But if you can get a nice problem free G4 for $400, then you got a stellar deal.
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almost every dealer in the country has a few low grade 16-D dimes. id be willing to bet that I could buy a 1916-D in Gd for $500 or less at least once a month for the next year or more and of course there is always ebay. the situation is entirely different for the 1867 dime, I seriously doubt that 12 pieces are offered for sale in a year's time. there are hundreds more collectors for the Mercury dime, and there are hundreds more coins available. i'll stand by my opinion, regardless of what any price guide says, if the two coins were put on ebay side by side, I'm convinced that the 1867 dime would do better.
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now if we compare the 1916-D to a Seated dime with a similar mintage, say the 1847, the mercury will do better every day of the week, even though there is only a fraction of the original 1847 mintage still existing today whereas there are probably more 1916-D dimes today than there was in 1916.
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I'll trust your opinion. lol. I don't own any dimes except ones in my 7070.
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With coins there is no such thing as perfection in pricing. There are no manufacturer's lists prices for coins. All price guides for coins are purely guesswork based on what someone thinks and what is copied from somewhere else.
The most important thing about the value of any coin is popularity. There are numerous examples of this throughout the Coin World. Note that although there are doubled died Lincoln Cents for almsot every year, nothing outranks the 1955 and that is due to so many people saying that is the one they want. Everyone dealing with coins mentions that one so it's popularity is what makes it what it is. Some are priced based on hoaders. For example again, the 1931S Lincoln Cent that was hoarded in massive quantities so it's value is really low for it's quantity minted.
Popularity on many things is what makes it what it is. A Cadalac Car is just a car but it is mentioned so much on TV shows, Radio programs, advertised excessively that people all think it is the best car in the USA. IF the Pinto had that much popularity, it would out do all others too.
With Dimes all people talk about is the 16D Mercury. Another example of popularity is the 1931D Mercury dime with the 4th lowest mintage in the series yet no popularity, low prices.
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its a very volatile market it seems coin collecting amazing when someone wants something to when no one wants it and then who knows in a few yrs totally the opposite c ASE
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many people collect Mercury dimes and Lincoln cents, YES the 1916-D dime, like the 1909-S VDB cent, are way overpriced in low grades. too many collectors need one so it becomes overpriced.
1921-D half has less mintage than 1916-D dime with 1/4 less price... less collect the halfs!
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Nothing is really overpriced IMHO. I prolly contradicted this somewhere else but oh well If a bunch of people are willing to pay the same price, then thats simply the price. Not much you can do about it.
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