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 Posted 03/19/2012  05:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My son got out his bottle of coins today and this was in it



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The letters I have worked out to be part of ST of AUSTRALIA
and where I have the arrows is the outside rim of another strike...I think...and to top it off its a 2007 50 cent with the massive metal spill /cud error/variety
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03/19/2012 05:52 am
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 Posted 03/19/2012  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dibby33 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...How old is your son?
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 Posted 03/19/2012  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
old enough to know not to give it to me lol he's 28!
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 Posted 03/19/2012  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweeeeeet find!
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 Posted 03/19/2012  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the marks on opposite corners of the coin?
Are tbe letters raised or indented?
Does the part that looks like reeding fit the reeding on another coin?
I dont know of any errors like that.
I suspect someone has placed a coin face down, placed that 50c standing on its edge, held another coin also standing on its edge on top of the 50c and then bashed the top coin with a hammer.
If the lettering is indented (rather than raised), then it was probably made by a coin, rather than by a die at the mint.
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03/19/2012 5:23 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2012  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. exactly opposite one another...
2. letters raised...reeding raised
3. reeding does not match 20 cents or any other australian coin to my knowledge
4. This is definitely done at the mint ...the position of the letters , the reeding partly (and very clear) on the vertical edge of the coin. Reeding is very even . and reeding goes round the bend on the edge.
also...the letters on the other side .'st...' also go around the bend....

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 Posted 03/20/2012  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I very much doubt that this could have occurred at the mint. For a 50C to have reeding on part of the edge of the coin is, in my opinion, impossible, so the only explanation is PMD.

In the 3rd picture, where the edge lettering is, the edge of the coin has been pushed up, and that's most likely a result of a good hit with another coin in between the 50c and a hammer. Also, the fact that the areas are exactly opposite each other, is an indication that the coin was sandwiched in between 2 other 'items' to create this effect. Sorry, but no mint error at all, PMD all the way to the reject pile.

The workshed operator in the backyard appears to be getting more inventive.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD. "reeding" is probably vice teeth witness marks. Incuse impressions of other coins are pretty much always signs of either being whacked against another coin or pressed slowly with a vice or press of some type.
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 Posted 05/07/2013  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK everyone....you seem to have decided this was PMD...well here I have another

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And-It's-Not-Mine-:

please don't tell me this is PMD...i have it in my hand and definitely not
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 Posted 05/07/2013  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I generally dont gamble.
However....
I would bet my 1966 wavy 20c that it is post mint damage.
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 Posted 05/07/2013  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well...sorry...but I am so sure of these , that I wouldn't swap them even for a $1 mule....have sent pics of both to RAM to see how this could happen in the mint....

and please don't forget that I was the one to find the 2010 'bubble'.....is this another 'find'
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05/07/2013 07:20 am
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 Posted 05/07/2013  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember you finding the 2010 bubble, and I like that one!
I have even found 1 or 2 of those and think I referred to it as "larena's bubble".
However, I am convinced that these ones are PMD.
Think about it like this.
Each error has a set of steps which has brought it about.
Dollar mule: A 10c die was accidentally used.
Rotated 2010 50c: A die was installed in the wrong position.
2001 $1 rotation: A die was able to spin during production
Wavy 20c: A die was damaged
What explanation can you come up with for those coins?
To me, nothing I know of in the minting process seems to fit.
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 Posted 05/07/2013  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right ozcoins there is not any possible way what so ever that these coins are errors. There is no reeding on a 50c collar. Also if a die was responsible for the marking on the edges with the letters then those would be raised rather than incused. It is PMD without doubt.
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 Posted 05/07/2013  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely impossible for this to have happened at the Mint.

PMD all the way to the trash can! So was the first one. This one was most probably 'manufactured' by the same person that 'manufactured' the first one.

I wonder how many more 50c coins have been treated in the same manner by the same person, and how many more of them will show up in the same region?
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 Posted 05/07/2013  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Larena, I have to do it



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Ask yourself - Why is the reeding so.....course?
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