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Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 5:51 pm Pretty much all of the text is "bolded" on the coin on the right. Especially noticeable on "In God We Trust," "United States of America," "E Pluribus Unum" and the FG initials. These coins have been sitting in my room for about 8-10 years, and I just noticed the differences between the coins. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

papatony Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 9:25 pm Possibly Die Deterioration. Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 9:40 pm Thanks for the input! Report this Post to the Staff
Buddy Rest in Peace United States 7075 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 10:59 pm The coins really do seem to have some differences. The stars on the obverse are quite different but I would guess that is just the difference between an early and a late die state. It also looks like a bit of the rim/trim is missing above the E on the obverse. Report this Post to the Staff
albertharris Pillar of the Community United States 901 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 11:04 pm Gives a new meaning to the term "double eagle." Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 11:16 pm Thanks Buddy for your take on the coin. I didn't notice the missing part of the rim above the E. These coins have been in a holder dated 1993 from Littleton Coin Company, if that means anything significant. Report this Post to the Staff
Drsandman2 Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 11:43 pm Welcome! Wow, the coin on the right almost looks as though it has die rust. I would agree with Die Deterioration, most likely the reason Littleton sent them to you. Just a tip, don't ever buy anything from them. Edited by Drsandman2 08/30/2012 11:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/30/2012 11:53 pm Thanks Drsandman, I didn't actually buy the coins. They were a gift and I happened to notice the coin while looking at my coin stash. Could you tell me what die rust is? Edited by Suomi 08/30/2012 11:54 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Jayman931 Pillar of the Community United States 2651 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 12:10 am How about circulation wear? Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 12:28 am It says on the package "mint set." I guess it still could be circulation wear Report this Post to the Staff
Drsandman2 Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 12:39 am Suomi, Check out the area on the reverse, between R in DOLLAR and the last A in AMERICA. It seems rough and pitted. In the old days, they would store leftover dies (the obverses still without a date punched) and pull them out the next year. Some of them would contain rust. To my knowledge, die rust is most often found on Indian Head cents and Morgan dollars. You can probably find better examples on the web, but a quick search revealed this Morgan dollar variety ( VAM). http://www.vamworld.com/1880-O+VAM-7 Also, check out this example of Die Deterioration: http://www.vamworld.com/message/vie...335#11190091 Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 12:51 am Thanks for the info on die rust, I'll have to check out the coin later. I'm still unsure what to call the right coin. I guess Die Deterioration? Edited by Suomi 08/31/2012 12:52 am Report this Post to the Staff
Drsandman2 Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 12:58 am I also see what appears to be an "extra" rim on the outside of the right coin, on the obverse. I would enjoy better pictures of the coin on the right myself. There are plenty of people on this forum much more knowledgeable than I. Report this Post to the Staff
Suomi Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 01:05 am Alright, I'll try to get a better picture tomorrow. I scanned the coins the first time and I hope I can get a better picture I believe the "extra rim" is the outline of the coin holder Edited by Suomi 08/31/2012 01:07 am Report this Post to the Staff
Buddy Rest in Peace United States 7075 Posts	Posted 08/31/2012 5:04 pm Suomi -- while circulation wear is a possibility I would think that the tallest devices would show the most wear and that would probably be the hair in this case. If the hair was worn flat as well as the stars then that would look more like circulation wear (to me, anyway). Drsandman2 Thanks for the good information on die rust. So much to learn ... Report this Post to the Staff
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