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Hi forum,

I have a new coin I picked up from an Auction in Ozland.
Im just wondering what this coin is and if it is worth anything.
Looks like an old copper coin so probably not worth much, and I'm new to grading/coins so any help would be appreciated in identifying the value/grade.

Cheers

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IIRC - Hibernia is used as an old name for Ireland. Hard to tell, but looks like a Penny or Half-penny from Ireland dated 1722 hard to tell
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11/18/2012 05:41 am
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It looks like a Woods Type 1 Farthing or 1/2 penny - what are the dimensions ?
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Hi thanks for the replies, the weight is 113.3 gwith a Diameter: 27.3 mm. The auctioneer recommends the grade is MS63BN. But still wouldnt give me a amount value.
Hmm I paid about $500 so I probably got ripped off lol
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found this page. Look about a third of the way down
http://www.irishcoinage.com/MILL3CAT.HTM
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Noah given the dimensions I suspect it is a 1/2 penny http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...mSearch=true

As for the grade this is XF http://www.irishcoinage.com/J01294B.HTM
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diameter for a half penny is 27 to 28mm, weight should be between 6.2 and 7.9g

Source - Coincraft's standard Catalogue of Scotland, Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man.

One of the best specimens I've seen by the way.
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Until I read this a few hours ago, I was unaware of the Woods coinage. I've just checked my winning bids on ebay, and it looks very much as though there is a right hand harp halfpenny among a job lot I've just bought. It's hard to tell as it's in a mixed lot and could be a bit rough, but the seller is local so I'll have it tomorrow morning. Pictures to follow.




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The auctioneer recommends the grade is MS63BN


IMO, this coin would grade in the upper AU range based on your photos. Here is a great source on Hibernia coinage.

http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/Col...a.intro.html
swcoin.ecrater.com
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does anyone know if it worth anything? at least more than $500 for what I paid for it lol.
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From your picture it is worn.The obverse is blotchey.
Did the auctioneer have a white stick?
For $500 Aus you have paid far too much.
(Type 1 also known as left harp)
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You paid 500 dollars Australian for something, and you didn't know what it was worth?
And Peter, what do you mean by the "white stick?"
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Philadelphian to be PC Peter1234 is inferring that the auctioneer is visually impaired.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh. Duh.
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Its HUGE. 1722's are easily 10X more in value than the common 1723 issues.

Probably $350 U.S.. Nice piece!
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