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1895 P Just Sold On E-Bay Is This Real?

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 Posted 01/21/2013  11:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Arcticsparky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I didn't think any of these existed. What do you guys think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1895-Morgan...em27cf00094c
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 Posted 01/21/2013  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1895-p Morgan dollars do exist. IIRC they were only issued in proof, and the last one I saw for sale online was for $47,500
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 Posted 01/21/2013  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fake to me- 9 doesn't look right. Besides, these were proofs and should look like proofs even if one managed to escape and get into circulation. I've seen circulated proofs of other denominations and they still have the mirror like appearance even down to lower grades
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 Posted 01/21/2013  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no Morgan expert but it looks very off to me
anybody notice that it was bid up mainly by a new buyer with 7 feedback score
and it was located in sweden?
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I agree with mycrob.

And if you VAM it, you'll see that the date placement is 'off' from this example.
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I don't think it is real. The 5 in the date looks slightly smaller than the other digits, the hair detail is weak, and the rims don't look squared off. It is abrasively cleaned which may be an attempt to hide something.
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I find it hard to believe that someone would spend $660 on this coin.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fact that this coin only pulled $660 shows that most people knew it was fake.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That very same seller had a high grade 1836 Gobrecht for sale about a week ago....sent him a message, so the action is still logged in my outbox even though the auction was pulled shortly after I wrote him.
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shows that most people knew it was fake.


Hopefully the winning bidder was no exception to this and this is one of those auctions the winner has intention of paying.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I't got me exited for for half a second, then reality set in. If anyone in the forum was the buyer please let us know what you find out about it.
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This has allot of abrasive marks on it. Maybe to hide a scrubbed mint mark?
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Looks kind of like a cast copy to me. That could explain what Doubl3Eagle already pointed out about the surfaces.


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It is abrasively cleaned which may be an attempt to hide something
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 Posted 01/21/2013  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the date, ain't no chance it's real.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone just bought a dull sour lemon. The thought flashed through my mind to bid on it also.
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They did make business strikes of the 1895, but none are known to exist and are assumed melted.
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