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Bulgaria
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Hello. I've got a Trade dollar from 1872, but I am not sure if it is fake or real, so I can sell it, since I left numismatics years ago. :| Please, could someone confirm if it is real ? I've checked the sites which is about such's fakes, but mine does not fit into their descriptions for the fake ones. Here a pictures of the coin:   Please - help. |
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Pillar of the Community
Israel
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Edited by supgog
03/01/2013 03:51 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Trade dollars were made from 1873-1885, and that doesn't look like them. Here is mine:  yours looks small/fake
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New Member
 Bulgaria
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Hello Fuzzy317 - could you share the diameter of your coin, I wish to compare the measurements with mine please.
btw .. I've clean the coin with soap, it was too dirty.
Edited by Yordan
03/01/2013 04:50 am
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United States
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Valued Member
Canada
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It appears to have a Trade dollar obverse and a pattern reverse. Looks like an attempt to copy the Goloid pattern. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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its definitely a copy of the goloid coins, there is 0 chance the coin is real. The real goloid dollars I have seen were made in 1878 and the Obverse is completely different and there were No goloid dollars made in 1872 so any with that date even if the correct design is a fantasy piece. One more thing, you should never clean any coin with anything because if this were a real goloid dollar you would have just diminished its numismatic value to less than half of its actual value. Even though this one is also fake this is close to what the Obverse of the real goloid dollars look like  |
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's not a Goloid, it's a replica/counterfeit Trade dollar pattern (J1220/P1362). Quite common in several varieties: http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2012/...1-1872-0001/http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2012/...1-1872-0002/However as others have noted yours looks far too small. A genuine pattern should have a diameter of ~38 mm and weigh around 27 grams (if struck in silver, it was struck in other metals too). I honestly haven't seen a tiny one like that before. :-) I'd wholeheartedly encourage you to submit it to The Black Cabinet (digitally with better pictures or otherwise) as it'd be worth documenting. Edited by SteveCaruso
03/01/2013 09:15 am
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New Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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More Information on this coin please? Chinese Counterfeit. |
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New Member
United States
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  can someone please help, I'm trying to find out value if any and if it's real |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry guys, all the Trade dollars you all have posted are fake (except Fuzzy's.) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Laborde, You posted onto an old thread. Your coin is dated 1872 and the first issue of the business Trade dollar was 1873, so your coin is counterfeit.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:Your coin is dated 1872 and the first issue of the business Trade dollar was 1873, so your coin is counterfeit. I think the term you're looking for is "fantasy coin"... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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and yes, the Trade dollar is one of the most counterfeited coins there is. |
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