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Type Set Based On The Lincoln Cent

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Being born in 1976 I've only ever known my pocket change as pretty much unchanging. The last ten years have been 'different' with the reverses changing on some of the coins but they're pretty much still the same.

So I was thinking about my favorite coin, the Lincoln Cent, and for some reason I never realized how many different types of different design pairings it's been through with all the other denominations. So then I thought, how could I put together a type set so I could see all the different combinations of what circulated through the life of the Lincoln Cent?

Here's my plan and maybe you can give me ideas of how to display it or figure out these last few years of reverse changes... The basic idea is to have the date of the first year of a new coin design so:

- 1909 Wheat, 1909 V Nickle, 1909 Barber dime, 1909 Barber quarter, 1909 Barber Half
- 1913 Wheat, 1913 Buffalo nickle, 1913 Barber dime, 1913 Barber quarter, 1913 Barber Half
- 1916 Wheat, 1916 Buffalo nickle, 1916 Mercury dime, 1917 Standing Liberty quarter (yeah right like I could afford the 16...), 1916 Walking Liberty half
- 1921 Wheat, 1921 Buffalo nickle, 1921 Mercury dime, 1921 Standing Liberty quarter, 1921 Walking Liberty half, 1921 Peace dollar
- 1932 Wheat, 1932 Buffalo nickle, 1932 Mercury dime, 1932 Washington quarter
- 1938 Wheat, 1938 Jefferson nickle, 1938 Mercury dime, 1938 Walking Liberty half
- 1943 Steel wheat, 1943 Jefferson nickle, 1943 Roosevelt dime, 1943 Washington quarter, 1943 Walking Liberty half
- 1946 Wheat, 1946 Jefferson nickle, 1946 Roosevelt dime, 1946 Washington quarter, 1946 Walking Liberty half
- 1948 Wheat, 1948 Jefferson nickle, 1948 Roosevelt dime, 1948 Washington quarter, 1948 Franklin half
- 1959 Memorial, 1959 Jefferson nickle, 1959 Roosevelt dime, 1959 Washington quarter, 1959 Franklin half
- 1964 Memorial, 1964 Jefferson nickle, 1964 Roosevelt dime, 1964 Washington quarter, 1964 Kennedy half, 1964 Peace dollar (Bahahahaha)
- 1971 Memorial, 1971 Jefferson nickle, 1971 Roosevelt dime, 1971 Washington quarter, 1971 Kennedy half, 1971 Ike
- 1979 Memorial, 1979 Jefferson nickle, 1979 Roosevelt dime, 1979 Washington quarter, 1979 Kennedy half, 1979 Susan B. Anthony
- 1999 Memorial, 1999 Jefferson nickle, 1999 Roosevelt dime, 1999 State Quarter, 1999 Kennedy half, 1999 Susan B and Sac dollar

Has any other denomination seen so many different varieties? Basically, it's just figuring out how to display mint sets for a lot of these years and I could go on with all the reverse changes on the Jefferson nickles, State Park quarters, Pres dollars, 2009 cent, 2010 Shield... I just want it to be about the fact that the Lincoln Cent has been there through it all. That over the last 100 years your pocket change would have always had it with all these really cool coins.

Thoughts? Ideas or variations to capture what I'm going for? Thoughts on displaying something like this by year so you can see the differences? Ideas for handling all the reverse changes of the last ten years? Thanks for reading!
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 Posted 12/17/2013  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should probably include the 1921 Morgan in your 1921 date bunch (only Morgan to be issued at the same time as Lincoln cents), and add the 1975 or 1976 date (bicentennial). 1965 (switch from silver) is also a possibility.
Other than that, it's a pretty cool set (though, even ignoring the 1916 quarter, some dates would get pretty expensive).
By the way, the 1943 dime was a Mercury.
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I like this idea a lot.

You could add the Lincoln bicentennial (2009) and shield (2010) cents to the mix. Also consider adding a Territory/DC quarter (technically a separate program from Statehood) to go with the bicentennials and an ATB Quarter to go with the shield.
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you might want to get the proofs from the later dates
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 Posted 12/17/2013  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An iteresting new trist on a coin collection. There would naturally be a problem in displaying. How could you place them in the order you have mentioned? How could you explain what your attempting so others would understand?
For example I doubt there are any Albums that could fit such a variety. Taping them to a board, plastic sheet, etc. would damage the coins. Can't glue them to anything for the same reason. Any display case, such as what dealers use at coin shows wouldn't work due to all the size variations up to the half or full sized dollars. If you go to a coin show or coin store, they do have those casses made for 1-1/2 flips and some for 2x2 flips. Placing all your coins in flips and in those casses would be one type of presentation but again, not for all coins due to sizes.
And one little item. Have you thought of the cost for all this yet?
Still if done may well be something really unusual and interesting.
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 Posted 12/17/2013  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, this is just plain cool.
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Consider adding:
1) 1944 Shell Case copper Lincoln
2) 1969 Redesigned ( = recut ) obverse Lincoln.
3) 1982 First Zinc Lincoln.
4) 1966 Jefferson - addition of F. S. [Felix Schlag's initials]
What a clever, new take on collecting by theme.

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Why not include the overlapping designs on the transition dates? You've got the 1916 Barber and Merc dimes, the 1916 Barber quarter, the 1913 V and Buffalo nickels (kidding), the 1938 Buffalo and Jefferson nickels, and the 1921 Peace and Morgan dollars. Most of the 1916 coins (except for the SL quarter) can be had for pretty cheap.

Also, 1909 was the last date that the O mint was in service--maybe you could incorporate that somehow?
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 Posted 12/17/2013  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, great responses so far and thanks for the encouragement! The best thing I can think of to display is this, and you can tell me if it would work or not. Buy a Dansco album, find or create my own pages with the correct holes. I could easily get acid free archival card stock and cut my own holes. Shoot, I could probably even get a nice faux vinyl or some kind of finished looking material and make my own pages. I'd have to do some research and figure out what types of glue and materials will be good for coins to not tone them...

I had originally thought I would put the Lincoln on the far left and then space it further than the rest of that years issues... or I could put the cent in the center and the others on either side but I run into a problem; I wouldn't be able to fit a single year across one row due to the size of the coins (I would probably have to limit each page to one or two years and make them into groups that somehow center on the cent).

I thought about some type of custom shield type holder that I make myself but that thing would be the size of a plate glass window!

I thought about a super truncated version of the set where the cent would be in the middle and then a large circle of just the different coins around it in two different flavors, the wheat and the memorial so:

- 1909 Wheat, Barber dime, Mercury dime, Roosevelt dime, V Nickle, Buffalo nickle, Jefferson nickle, Barber quarter, Standing Liberty quarter, Washington quarter, Walking Liberty half, Franklin half, Peace dollar, Morgan dollar and then...
- 1959 Memorial, Roosevelt dime, Jefferson nickle, Washington quarter, State Quarter, Territory Quarter, State Park Quarter, Kennedy half, Ike dollar, Susan B Dollar, Sac Dollar, Pres Dollar

I would still limit the dates to the first years of issues and for issues that crossed the 59 line I could do the different alloy (ex. the 1909 Wheat with Washington quarter would be the 1932 but the 1959 Memorial could be the 1965 from the change in mint mark location and the end of silver to clad) Something like that.

I don't know... the more I think about the changes in coinage over the last 100 years, the bigger this potential type set becomes in my mind! I really want to do it though! Keep the ideas coming though, I'm handy enough that I could probably fashion something with minimal machinery needed too so if it's a display idea, have at it!
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 Posted 12/17/2013  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, thanks for pointing out my Roosevelt typo! Or should I say... am I the only person with a 1943 Roosevelt dime...? :) I can't believe I forgot about the Morgan in 1921 too!
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I was working on appraising a collection recently and I found a slab that was specifically designed to hold type sets. Not sure where it was from, but that might be a good place to start for some of your sets. The ones I had were designed to hold the 1 cent through 50 cent denominations, but I'm sure you can find some that hold the large and small size dollars as well.

Another option is 2x2's. They're stupid cheap to buy, and you can buy "pages" to hold and display them. The most common appear to be 20-slot sheets, but you could probably find larger sheets if you do some digging.
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For example I doubt there are any Albums that could fit such a variety.


Gardmaster albums would fit the bill nicely.

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If you oriented the years vertically, and made your own pages it might work. This way each lincoln would be at the top and the other coinage varieties below it...
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Great idea! I like years sets anyway so this is a cool twist to it.
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You can get a Dansco year set album with pages that go from cent to half.

I have one and unfortunately it is full.
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 Posted 12/19/2013  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I think I've got a plan. First, the set itself. Still open to ideas but I think this is pretty much it...

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As for displaying it, I'm going to make my own pages and put them into a Blank Dansco. I've been looking at materials and have found archive safe, acid free, lignin free backing board. Each sheet is 1mm thick so I will veneer three sheets together per page with Best Test archive safe acid free cement. I will then lay out the grid on the page for either two or three years (depending on what type of coins are in each year). The Lincoln will have two holes so I can display both obverse and reverse which I think will help draw attention to the purpose of the set. Each year, for the most part, will have it's own custom layout.

I've found stiff mylar sheeting like a Dansco plastic window that I can custom cut for each year as well. I plan on cutting two small strips about 1/8 inch wide to make a type of 'guide rail' for the plastic slides. Then, I will veneer a nice acid free colored vinyl or something on top of that for the 'finished' look and to create the pocket the slide will fit into. The guide rails will serve two purposes, first, I will be able to glue on the outside of them so I don't get it where the holes will be cut and second, it will discourage the slides from separating the finish veneer from the rest of the board (it's a problem I currently have with my 8100 and it bugs me)

After that, I'll cut the holes with a compass circle saw, drill the holes for the album binding and round the corners. All I have to do then is use rub on lettering and Voila!

I'm hoping to get some pics up soon of each page layout. I figure this is going to be a longer term project for me (saving for the down payment of my new house that closes in May) so it will give me time to experiment and tighten up the plans. I really enjoy making things with my hands so the amount of work will be fun for me too.

Any flaws in my plan? Different ideas?
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