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1883 Liberty V Nickel

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 Posted 01/12/2014  4:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeffinbuffalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please give your opinion!

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 Posted 01/12/2014  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinmaniac1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say AU-50 for the grade. An excellent historical piece to have in that condition. In the 1880's, people would plate these in 24 carat gold (racketeer nickels) to fool people into thinking this is a 5 dollar gold coin.
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 Posted 01/12/2014  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To blurry to grade but as mentioned 1883 was the first year and they were plated to pass off as gold $5.00 pieces they added cents later in1883 and that one is worth more because there are less of them. People still plate the one you have and sell on ebay as racketeer coins but how do you prove when it was plated.
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 Posted 01/12/2014  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a little blurry... I'm thinking around VF-25.
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 Posted 01/12/2014  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The picture is too blurry to give an accurate grade
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 Posted 01/12/2014  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF!

Unable to offer any grade opinion based on the photos ... curious what is happening (by photo) on the reverse wreath ... is it truly worn away as shown?

In focus photos would help us to help you.

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AU-MS
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Mikey07nj,
Absolute proof is impossible. However, plausible proof can be established
by established guidelines.
For more info:
https://goccf.com/t/154036&whichpage=1

nickelsearcher,
You must have seen Jefferson nickels with weakness in a spot or three.
Nickel is a HARD metal to strike sharply. Jeffinbuffalo's example
is typical of this.

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 Posted 01/13/2014  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the value of the w/ cents nickel is more valuable in higher grades due to the fact that it wasn't hoarded as the w/o cents nickel was when it was discontinued...so not at all based on total mintage.

Matthew, maybe you could shine some light upon this?
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AU but not sure as to number based on the photos.
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My apologies for the blurry pictures, Here are a few more.

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Tough to grade, but it is at least mid-AU with all of that cartwheel luster that is visible.
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I really can't decipher if the lack of detail is due to a weak strike or wear, so, I could not grade confidently. Would need to see it in hand. Nice coin either way.
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I'm not sure about that reverse being a strike issue
Would the OP mind a close up shot being posted of that area?

Your lighting is too hot even in the second shots which are less blurry
Try to adjust lighting to reduce all that wash out and just capture relief details
I'd love to see this coin in more detail
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epikur,

You are correct.
Without Cents: 5 million
With Cents: 16 million
The first year of a coin is often hoarded. Non-collectors do it for the novelty.

Now, consider the type collector. Without cents is needed, but any date
with cents is acceptable. The non-collector remains happy with the '83 without cents.

Because so many '83 without were saved they are often in high grades.
Because the '83 with was not saved, high grades are elusive.

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Although V nickels are notorious for weak strike in that part of the wreath, this coin goes far beyond that known weakness. My first impression of the weakness was a grease strikethrough.
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