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It is a late die stage with lots of die chips. I would hang on to it. I think they are interesting. I have seen a few other quarters that are really late die stage like this with crumbling. The 1889-O Morgan dollar VAM 13B http://www.vamworld.com/1889-O+VAM-13B is a crumbled die just like these quarters. So I would think someone could do a listing for such coins if anyone was to start studying looking for varieties. The chips around the date in the field are pretty cool! |
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VLDS worth exactly face value. Make a wish and throw it in a fountain.
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Jayman, you should not be telling people to throw their coins back like that. I feel it has a little extra value because of the die chips all over on the coin. If you found a Morgan dollar VAM 13B which is just a VLDS that shows crumbling like this would you sell it for common money? Edited by 7TF
02/26/2014 5:42 pm
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Sounds like you had a good day. I'd keep the quarter but I wouldn't get my hopes up about it having any premium value. Decades from now... maybe.  |
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I got one today that was possibly struck from the same die, but slightly earlier. It has strong Die Deterioration Doubling on the obverse & reverse and that die chip is just starting above the 9 in 2009. It's in high AU condition. I was thinking of taking some pics, labeling it correctly so nobody thinks it's a doubled die, and starting it at $0.50 on ebay just to see if there is beginning to be interest in this kind of thing. The key is making sure to state what it is. I don't want anyone to buy it thinking its a doubled die. Technically, "BIE" cents are the same thing. Using the dies too long causes deterioration and chipping. If I do I'll post a pic or two here. |
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It would be cool to find some others from the same die and make a die progression set.
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You might check OBW rolls or bags of quarters. That way you have more examples from die pairs per lot.
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7TF- It was a "light hearted comment"...I don't think he would take my advice and find a fountain and make a wish and let her fly...but ya never know. I wish someone would have told me to throw a lot of my coins back into the wild. I had about 2000 could be's that never were I had to go through at one point. Had a lot of die chips that just took up space and 2x2's. I wasted money cause I wasn't told straight forward what was an error and what was not. Minor die chips are not considered errors. They are considered within mint tolerances. But it is worth $.25. And comparing it to a Morgan is just ludicrous.
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7TF - Very cool. I know about die errors but never thought of a progression set or seen one. That'd be awesome!
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Who knows what people will collect in 20 years. I'm sure a half century ago Morgan collectors didn't want a coin with cracks and clashes and such. Now some of those VAMs are worth a pretty penny. Who would have thought that MD would bring the prices it does now, from time to time. And I talking about labeled as MD, not saying its a doubled die and it really isn't. Obviously some people have started collecting moderate MD. While it may be unlikely, 10, 20, or 50 years from now, it may not be so "ludicrous".
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The number of people who collected coins in the time of Morgans were incredibly low. The mintage of coins in that time period were also incredibly low. The comparison is ridiculous. If finding errors were easy, errors wouldn't be worth anything. Supply and demand. If you want to collect and pay for die chips and Machine Doubling by all means I am not stopping you. Just don't be upset when you realize what you paid for isn't resold/worth more than face. This is a site of learning and we (I) would like people to learn what is valuable. I would like people to learn about varieties and errors. I would rather have people gain knowledge about coins that will have value in the future instead of worthless die chips and Machine Doubling. Am I being course? Probably. Am I being truthful? Yes. (this is the truth I have learned....might I be wrong...sure..but I wouldn't bet against me) There are a hundred auctions on ebay that people get scammed on every day because people think they have something that they do not. Yeah...a coin is as valuable as what someone will pay but I am not going to take advantage of someone who doesn't know coins. Knowledge and learning are at the heart of this. Like I said previously, I wish someone would have told me straight when I first started collecting so I didn't have to go through a few thousand coins that people said "Hey...nice die chip" My .$.50 worth P.S. Shnug- Keep looking for errors and varieties. They are out there and you will find them. It takes time to learn about varieties and errors. Your pictures are 100x better than mine were when I started and probably better than mine now. Be patient and the finds will come. Happy Hunting.  Edited by Jayman931
03/05/2014 01:12 am
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