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Woman Pays $200 Bill With Coins, Town Says No More

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Lol I'm surprised they accepted that in the first place.
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In the UK a guy got fined for paying a debt/bill with five crates of coins, he went to the bank to get them as he wanted to prove a point. But it backfired, as coppers here are only legal tender to pay for something up to 20p. Never the less it's funny, and the story above makes me laugh so much especially the ''4 employees, 1 hour'' part-legendary.

Here's the link to the one I was on about^ :- http://www.theguardian.com/money/sh...th-1p-and-2p
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My first question is, can they do that? Paper money says,"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." I assumed it was the same for coins.
If not, I should still be able to pay my $1,500 property tax bill with singles.
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Um, seriously, $200? And not even in cents? That's not even that much money.
I don't really see how could it had taken anyone over a hour to sort it all, unless it was almost entirely nickels with only the occasional dime or quarter (even then, it's only like 3500 coins).
[On second thought, the "paper sleeves" part probably took most of that hour.]
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My first question is, can they do that?

Yes they can.


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Paper money says,"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." I assumed it was the same for coins.

Yes it is the same for coins, but there is no law that requires anyone to actually accept legal tender.


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If not, I should still be able to pay my $1,500 property tax bill with singles.

You can, but they can still decline to accept it and require a different form of payment. If they do though they can't assess late payment charges etc. because you have made a legal attempt to settle the debt.

Where I live they will only accept checks or credit cards in payment of property taxes. Cash is not accepted.
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Thanks. This good to know before I consider any foolish stunts.
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The definition of "Legal Tender" is basically Legal TO Tender (somebody pointed out last time that this had changed from the 1800s when a merchant was required to accept legal tender.

But with today's definition a private business can make whatever rules they want, provided they post them prominently - "No bills over $20" on the front door.

It also is different between when you put items on the supermarket belt and when you are paying a debt you've already incurred. Placing that can of beans on the belt is actually you offering to buy it at the marked price - the store doesn't have to accept your offer. Once they accept your offer and your tender - then a contract is established. But in the case of paying the water bill, you've already established the contract. Offering legal tender, absent a restriction in place at the time you incurred it, they may have to accept it, then post a notice for the next clever individual.

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As long as they let me go in front of them, I don't have a problem with it especially if I'm on a tight schedule.
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I don't see why they just didn't take the change to a bank and run it through their coin counter rather than pay 4 people to count it all out.
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My bank doesn't have a coin counter for its customers. And I am not putting my coins in a Coinstar. They now charge 10.9 cents/dollar. No thanks, I will spend them as is or roll them myself.
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My bank doesn't have a coin counter for its customers. And I am not putting my coins in a Coinstar. They now charge 10.9 cents/dollar. No thanks, I will spend them as is or roll them myself.


This so much! My Credit union locally (I use an out of state bank for 99% of my banking) had a machine in the lobby, one of the reasons I signed up with them, that made change easy to deal with, and when I had the odd local check, I could deposit it there without chancing on the mail losing it if I mailed it off.
They have removed the change counter and gone to a fee based system for all change totaling more than $10.00 or two rolls. Not a happy customer.

I have thought of using the Coinstar to get the fee waived gift cards on stuff I will use like Starbucks, etc. at least then I still get my full value (if you can count overpaying for coffee a full value)!
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I don't see why they just didn't take the change to a bank and run it through their coin counter rather than pay 4 people to count it all out.

Sure, just take the money and tell her that he will get a receipt and the money credited to her bill in a week or so after the bank counts it, confirms the amount, and credits the towns account. Of course the bill will not be marked as being paid until then so if it becomes past due before the town is credited with the money late fees will be assessed. "And we aren't going to send someone out on a special trip to the bank to get it counted."
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When we moved back home I paid our last rent payment in $1 bills and halves (tried with those, read on). The place was being more and more rude toward the end of our contract. We actually had mushrooms growing from one of our walls. An INTERIOR wall with no water pipes. Here a pipe was leaking above our apartment and soaked the wall. It took over a week for them to even start fixing it.

So they received their $600 payment with:

200 $1 bills
800 half dollars (boy did that sack make a BANG)

They wouldn't accept the half dollars (no big deal) so I went and got them $400 in money orders...$5 at a time (free from my bank, I told the lady what I was doing and she used to live in the same apartments).

Demanded a receipt for EVERY SINGLE money order.......and my $1 deposit back.
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