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NGC Grader Finds Rare Morgan Error In Bulk Submission

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The following is a press release from NGC

A routine bulk submission was interrupted when an NGC grader discovered a multiple cracked collar â€" a rare 1896 Morgan dollar mint error.

An NGC grader was surprised to find a rare mint error while evaluating an otherwise routine bulk submission of common date Morgan dollars. The 1896 Morgan dollar features a multiple cracked collar visible at 1 o'clock, 6 o'clock and 9 o'clock at the edge. It is most prominent from 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock, where the collar has partially sunk away, leaving a raised edge that is partially devoid of reeding.

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Broken collar mint errors are the result of the collar, which imparts the edge design (in this case reeding), wearing down during use, cracking, and eventually breaking off. In this case, however, the collar has not fully broken off and instead a piece from 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock has started to sink away from the rest of the collar.

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Left: Coin photographed on a concave mirror

When this coin was struck, the metal stretched to fill the recesses created by the sunken collar, which has caused the reeding on the edge at the collar break to appear elongated. The reeding is obscured at the 18 in the date.

Collar breaks are seldom seen, particularly on Morgan dollars. The NGC certification label identifies the location of the collar breaks on this mint error.

Every coin that NGC receives is carefully evaluated for authenticity and grade as well as major varieties and mint errors. This attention to detail is the same for every coin regardless of its value or the grading tier selected by the submitterâ€"and occasionally it results in extraordinary discoveries.

This mint error, for example, was unattributed and submitted as part of a bulk submission of Morgan dollars. A sharp-eyed NGC grader, however, noticed its significance and set it aside for further research. Attributed by NGC as a mint error, this coin is likely to fetch thousands of dollars in the marketplace.

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That is cool.
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Very cool! Thanks for sharing, Bobby.
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Amazing! How much do you think it's worth?
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How could a cracked collar only affect one coin? Could there be more out there?
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very cool discovery

Errors on silver dollars must be few and far between.

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That's a neat coin! Thanks for sharing.
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing this Bobby!
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I'm thinking it'll take about $3000 to take this one home. Broken collars and railroad rims are pretty uncommon with Morgans but yet common enough for a well-heeled collector to take a specialized interest in them. This piece is so liquid you have to grip it carefully lest its' viscosity cause it to slip from your grasp.

I'll bet there might be one or two more but the event which shattered the collar made enough noise to be noticed. So, they'd have stopped the press and checked the output for bad coins.
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Great. For an untrained eye that error would pass as a coin used in jewelry.
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"Coin photographed on a concave mirror"

Brilliant!!
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since this coin was struck with a defective die that means there must be more right? and if so wouldn't that give it a chance at becoming a new VAM?
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Unless a Mint worker noticed, more specifically heard, the shattered collar, yes, there would be maybe a few more out there unless they were melted back down.
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I'd think this error is somewhere between $2,500 and $5,000 of course that is a guess based on what I've seen errors of a similar type bring. Morgans were made in the tens of millions if not 100's of millions and a lot of errors slipped by.
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since this coin was struck with a defective die that means there must be more right? and if so wouldn't that give it a chance at becoming a new VAM?


The problem here was with the collar, not the die. So, this coin is a VAM (they all are), but the collar problem could only at best be called a subvariety of an existing VAM.

I have a side bet that submissions to PCGS and NGC of 1896-P's are going to spike in the near future. I can hear the sound of slabs being cracked all over the country, from my desk.
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