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This is a strange one. I want to say it's real, but it looks very deliberate. Like an angry mint employee defaced the die. Also, do die cracks run through the devices like that? Something just seems off. Let's see what others have to say.
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Rest in Peace
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Those are some weird and creepy lines.
I'm with Mike1487 -- somebody did something bad to that die.
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It is simply not possible for a die to form three straight parallel cracks like that. The coin received three angular cuts which vertically displaced metal and those cuts were subsequently worn down in circulation.
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It is simply not possible for a die to form three straight parallel cracks like that. The coin received three angular cuts which vertically displaced metal and those cuts were subsequently worn down in circulation.
It has to be that. Yet, the detail image says something else.... OcalaFlorida, you have to get that resolution over all of the "stripes," especially the weaker areas. Aside biokemist's explanation, there's no way for this coin to exist. |
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Edited by OcalaFlorida
12/10/2014 2:36 pm
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I'm going to erase everything I just typed, and sit back to think for a moment.
OK, yeah, I can still see knife cuts being the culprit here, but this is about as deceptive an example as has been posted at CCF.
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for a $1.25 I will still keep it as conversation piece it is one weird looking coin either way
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IMO die scratches. Done at the Mint so not PMD. |
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IMO defintely NOT done at the Mint, so PMD! Biokemist6 got it right on I believe, old knife cuts that have worn down to look like die cracks. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I'm not really sold on the knife cuts. It looks like too much extra metal. And you would think they would be more jagged if they were knife cuts - they are mostly straight lines with some gradual curvatures.
Is that a break in the middle line just to the right of her hair? Can we see that up close?
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Holding at a slight angle, a box cutter or a knife and make a nice straight cut across a coin.The metal from the carved out divet is displaced to the top edge of the valley and can remain attached to the coin.circulate a few years & you have a coin such as yours. The third picture down shows the deep valley where the point or tip of a sharp instrument dug out the metal.IMHO
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12/10/2014 6:03 pm
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Here's a thought ....
I think it's silver solder.
The lines run up and over the devices and it seems likely that something was added to the coin.
It could have been a money clip or a piece of jewelry.
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Would a TPG be able to properly attribute this? |
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If it were a mad mint worker, you'd think that more examples would have surfaced by now. There would have to be more than 1 right? Very interesting thread. I would really like to hear from Mike Diamond on this one, although I highly respect and agree with Biokemist6 opinion and many others here. I still have a little bit of doubt because of the wear covering up the original knife marks. It sure looks like a Lot of metal pushed up. AS op said, great conversation piece!
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One other question. Does the mint dispose of old dies? And maybe this die was meant for disposal and accidently got put back in? Just a thought.
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Posted 12/10/2014 1:59 pm
